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Custom Wheels

Alrighty CD Community, does your team have/use custom wheels? If so; What is your process in designing/making them?
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Re: Custom Wheels

Here is a peek at what Team 316 will most likely be using next year.



They are cast urethane plastic.
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Re: Custom Wheels

Do you have any issues with the material being worn out?
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Re: Custom Wheels

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Do you have any issues with the material being worn out?
The tread or the plastic?

The tread, yes. Plastic, no.
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Re: Custom Wheels

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Here is a peek at what Team 316 will most likely be using next year.



They are cast urethane plastic.
How did you come up with the design for the wheel and do you have the numbers that would show how durable it is?
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Re: Custom Wheels

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How did you come up with the design for the wheel and do you have the numbers that would show how durable it is?
For the design, I just used the same outer diameter as the AM performance wheels and the bore will snuggly fit an AM hex hub. The spokes are just a simple pattern I drew up.

Not currently. I am trying to learn to use the stress analysis tool in Inventor. I made a set of urethane wheels that are considerably weaker due to air bubbles and they held up fine in a few off season events.
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For the design, I just used the same outer diameter as the AM performance wheels and the bore will snuggly fit an AM hex hub. The spokes are just a simple pattern I drew up.

Not currently. I am trying to learn to use the stress analysis tool in Inventor. I made a set of urethane wheels that are considerably weaker due to air bubbles and they held up fine in a few off season events.
Any details on how these were made? I assume you had to create some sort of mold, but how was this done?
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Re: Custom Wheels

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Any details on how these were made? I assume you had to create some sort of mold, but how was this done?
Can't speak for 316, but I expect it's very similar to this.
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Can't speak for 316, but I expect it's very similar to this.
Yes basically, but we are using a two part mold. I will explain in a bit more detail when I get home.
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Re: Custom Wheels

We built these wheels after we got tired of re-treading our Vexpro wheels.

The idea is that they split in half off the axel, so the axel doesn't need to be pulled out (We use a 2x1 Aluminum extrusion on both sides of the wheel axel) Then we can easily drill out the pop-rivets and replace the tread. As of now, we have had no issues with the tread bubbling at all.

The hex was broached after this picture was taken, we built 4 of them in house (3 Axis CNC), then a sponsor built the other 4 (5 Axis CNC).

And all the Conversational code to build these wheels was hand written, which is pretty cool!

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Re: Custom Wheels

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We built these wheels after we got tired of re-treading our Vexpro wheels.

The idea is that they split in half off the axel, so the axel doesn't need to be pulled out (We use a 2x1 Aluminum extrusion on both sides of the wheel axel) Then we can easily drill out the pop-rivets and replace the tread. As of now, we have had no issues with the tread bubbling at all.

The hex was broached after this picture was taken, we built 4 of them in house (3 Axis CNC), then a sponsor built the other 4 (5 Axis CNC).

And all the Conversational code to build these wheels was hand written, which is pretty cool!
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Do you just tread each half and attach them with 2 seams in the tread? Pretty clever for those -hard to replace drivetrains
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Re: Custom Wheels

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We built these wheels after we got tired of re-treading our Vexpro wheels.

The idea is that they split in half off the axel, so the axel doesn't need to be pulled out (We use a 2x1 Aluminum extrusion on both sides of the wheel axel) Then we can easily drill out the pop-rivets and replace the tread. As of now, we have had no issues with the tread bubbling at all.

The hex was broached after this picture was taken, we built 4 of them in house (3 Axis CNC), then a sponsor built the other 4 (5 Axis CNC).

And all the Conversational code to build these wheels was hand written, which is pretty cool!

Did you have any issues with the flat on the top/ bottom of wheels? How exactly do you replace the tread? Is this on a live axle or dead axle?

Wicked cool design BTW.

EDIT: didn't read whole post. Dead axle then.

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Re: Custom Wheels

Has anyone tried using another material besides wedgetop or roughtop?
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Has anyone tried using another material besides wedgetop or roughtop?
Blue Nitrile. That first picture in this thread shows some, though it's just about indistinguishable from the wheel. Lots of teams use that.
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Re: Custom Wheels

Interesting, Most wheels tend to wear out from my view. Our team uses custom wheels with Ployurethane and they've got perfect grip and don't tend to wear easily.

Polyurethane is a great material; we did a Cinco de mayo parade with the robot last year on a hot day and walked on the streets and our wheels didn't wear at all. We'll Be doing the parade this year again ( Tomorrow )
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