IRI Finals Question

[magnets]

My internet connection had some issues during the finals so I have a few questions as to what happened. I know that 2056 won, but I'm not sure how the scoring went.

1-Finals 1: What happened in auto? Did 1114 get a penalty for their blocking, or was this a clean match?

2-Finals 2: It appeared that 1114 and 2056 were disabled after dragging each other around. Was this done by the teams e-stopping themselves, or by a ref? If by a ref, what was the rule for disabling them?

3-Finals 2: Was there a foul for entangling? If so, did 1114 get it?

[Jay O'Donnell]

All I know is that it was 230-230 at the end of the match and Blue received 50 points from a tech foul, but I didn't hear an explanation for the foul.

[Christopher149]

My stream cut to commercials at the wrong time, so I too am wondering what happened. Last thing I saw was (I think) 1114 and 2056 getting highlighted red on the scoring overlay (while they were tangled up).

[MattInAHat]

Originally Posted by Christopher149

My stream cut to commercials at the wrong time, so I too am wondering what happened. Last thing I saw was (I think) 1114 and 2056 getting highlighted red on the scoring overlay (while they were tangled up).

Yeah right before it cut away at the end 1114 and 2056 seemed to have red cards.
It looked like, as they were untangling, that 1114 had caught 2056's string with their appendages and so maybe that's why alliance #1 got the foul points.

[magnets]

I just texted my friend who was there for finals 2-

Here's what he said.

Finals 1- 1114 high speed ramming (probably)
Finals 2- 1114 got tangled in 2056. Referee disabled the robots for an unknown reason, 1114 got a penalty for it, but it wasn't clear whose fault it was.

So why was 2056 disabled?

[Nathan Rossi]

1114 just can't get a break with these penalties huh?

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by magnets

I just texted my friend who was there for finals 2-

Here's what he said.

Finals 1- 1114 high speed ramming (probably)
Finals 2- 1114 got tangled in 2056. Referee disabled the robots for an unknown reason, 1114 got a penalty for it, but it wasn't clear whose fault it was.

So why was 2056 disabled?

Probably so that no further damage would potentially be caused by the entanglement

[Jay O'Donnell]

Hopefully Karthik or someone else from teams 254, 1114, or 2056 who was at the question box after Finals match 2 can give us a solid explanation as to what happened.

Originally Posted by magnets

Finals 1- 1114 high speed ramming (probably)

I'm curious about this - throughout the entire competition there have been more collisions that have been higher speed and resulted in more damage but weren't called. why would this be called out of everything?

[magnets]

Originally Posted by Steven Donow

Probably so that no further damage would potentially be caused by the entanglement

I don't see a rule that says you can disable a robot if you feel like it.

There are 6 ways a robot can get disabled.

1. "ROBOTS whose operation or design is unsafe are not permitted.
Violation: FOUL & DISABLED. If the issue is due to design: Re-Inspection."

Not this. It wasn't unsafe, and if it was a G3, there would have been fouls on both sides.

2. G4. Placing robots on field. It's not this either.

3. G6. Delayed start of match. I don't think so.

4. G10. Deals only with field elements.

5. G20. Bumper rules. Bumpers were totally fine and in the bumper zone (measured with respect to normal robot orientation).

6. G21. Extend outside field. 2056 did this plenty (with no fouls), but never contacted anything, so no disable. Not this.

What's frustrating to me is that my buddy said they never explained who got the first foul and they never explained the second foul at all.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Watching it on the webstream Finals 2 looked like a pinning penalty on red but I can't be sure.

[magnets]

Finals 1- The only fouls seen in the match recording are 2056's repeated extensions outside the safety zone. There could have been some on the other side of the field missed by the webcast.

The announcer says "As you saw, the last second truss shot would have won it by ten points; however, at the very start of the match there was a red technical foul that also resulted in a red yellow card, one of the red robots drove onto a blue robot with the intent to inhibit that robot's actions. That's a yellow card...."

[Jay O'Donnell]

The explanation for finals match 1 was "At the beginning of the match, one of the red robots drove onto a blue robot with the intent to inhibit that robot's actions", not quite high speed ramming. From watching the video here: http://youtu.be/gCfHNWajGq4, I can't see anything like that, so it must have been off camera.

Edit: magnets beat me to it but I'll keep my post here for the video link.

[cgmv123]

Originally Posted by magnets

I don't see a rule that says you can disable a robot if you feel like it.

2056's drive team could have just stopped moving to avoid further damage. Their robot wasn't necessarily disabled; it just wasn't moving.

[AGPapa]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

Watching it on the webstream Finals 2 looked like a pinning penalty on red but I can't be sure.

I was sitting in the audience and saw the ref call the pinning foul.

As for finals 1, 330 ran on top of 469 in front of the low goal, preventing them from shooting.