2015 HINT DISCUSSION

[Jim Wilks]

Originally Posted by XenObliv

The phrase
"Change is Coming."
Could easily refer to the name of the game

This makes the most sense to me.

[K-Dawg157]

Agreed

[Riverdance]

Someone might have said this already... but after reading a lot of this thread, my teammates and I took another look at the game hint video and although Frank is totally standing on a 2015 field, they don't show the field surface...

lends to the idea that it might not be carpet this year.

[g_sawchuk]

Originally Posted by Riverdance

Someone might have said this already... but after reading a lot of this thread, my teammates and I took another look at the game hint video and although Frank is totally standing on a 2015 field, they don't show the field surface...

lends to the idea that it might not be carpet this year.

After Lunacy, I'm really hoping that they're smart enough to not have that kind of thing again. However, what would be interesting is patches of different surfaces throughout the field, or the field divided into sectors, each with a different surface. That would make driving different and open surface based strategies.

[dc74089]

Too lazy to find the post that mentioned it earlier, but I think it warrants repeating that Frank posted a much more... Straightforward version of this hint on the blog in October. Not saying that there isn't something hidden in the video, but Frank has pretty much confirmed that a major rule, something that's been a part of FRC for multiple years now, is changing. My vote is on no teleop this year. Just think, giant metal 6-player FLL. *That* would be change.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...g-New-for-2015

[g_sawchuk]

Originally Posted by dc74089

Too lazy to find the post that mentioned it earlier, but I think it warrants repeating that Frank posted a much more... Straightforward version of this hint on the blog in October. Not saying that there isn't something hidden in the video, but Frank has pretty much confirmed that a major rule, something that's been a part of FRC for multiple years now, is changing. My vote is on no teleop this year. Just think, giant metal 6-player FLL. *That* would be change.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...g-New-for-2015

I think no teleop would really take away from team cooperation. Don't think FIRST would ever do that.

[Ryan_Davis]

Originally Posted by dc74089

Too lazy to find the post that mentioned it earlier, but I think it warrants repeating that Frank posted a much more... Straightforward version of this hint on the blog in October. Not saying that there isn't something hidden in the video, but Frank has pretty much confirmed that a major rule, something that's been a part of FRC for multiple years now, is changing. My vote is on no teleop this year. Just think, giant metal 6-player FLL. *That* would be change.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...g-New-for-2015

This is the most terrifying theory I've read. I'm the sole programming mentor.

[DonRotolo]

You know: Pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters absolutely frighten me.
You see, I am afraid of change...

[NWalker]

Change is coming
change
coins
circles
hockey pucks
ice
water
WATER GAME CONFIRMED!!!

He recycles the 2014 Manual
recycling
blue
water
WATER GAME DOUBLY CONFIRMED!!!

Change is coming
16 letters
FIRST
5 letters
5*2=10
16-10=6
6 upside down looks like 9
Water Game has 9 letters
WATER GAME TRIPLY CONFIRMED!!!

[gavmac928]

So, my input so far:
1. The field perimeter will be basically the same (ie. Not triangular), but who's to say there won't be some sort of triangular zone within the field?
2. There is no way that they accidentally RECYCLED footage from 1997 for the 1999 section of the video.
3. The recycling has to be important. As my previous point implied, maybe something from the 1997 game will be reused this year?
4. That long box in the kit of parts, as many people have said on that thread, has to be something we can't easily replicate and is critical to the game, or its donated raw materials.
5. I really, really hope they're not recycling and modifying the 2014 game, because if not it means theres a huge change coming, which is what I was hoping for this year.

[Mr.BeepBoop]

I looked through the thread a little but I was wondering if anyone else noticed at 0:12 how they used the wrong clip for '99 "Double Trouble". The one shown in its place is from '97 "Troid Terror".

Also, am I the only one who finds it ironic how he is recycling something right after he says change is coming?

[arizonafoxx]

Originally Posted by Mr.BeepBoop

I looked through the thread a little but I was wondering if anyone else noticed at 0:12 how they used the wrong clip for '99 "Double Trouble". The one shown in its place is from '97 "Troid Terror".

Also, am I the only one who finds it ironic how he is recycling something right after he says change is coming?

Yes it has been noted. Personally I think this is one of the biggest clues. Or a huge mistake by someone at FIRST.

Maybe we just need to forget everything that happened in 99. For those of you not born yet should be easy.

[owenli10]

Originally Posted by arizonafoxx

Yes it has been noted. Personally I think this is one of the biggest clues. .

In 1999 (Double Trouble), alliances scored points by positioning "pucks" on the playing field.

Hockey game anyone?

[Poseidon5817]

I think you guys are overthinking it. It's obviously a game where you score points by dropping copies of the 2014 game manual into recycling bins.

But seriously, except for the 1997-1999 thing, I think all the hint is saying is that there will be some rule changes for 2015.

[Samwaldo]

I would be money that this hint had very little** to do with the actual game itself. I think the hint has to do with the format of how we play. The 3 vs 3 will remain, but elimination format might be changed, or maybe time duration, or maybe another period in addition to auton. and telop.

Note: You could tell in the background that he was on the field, and that IF it was the 2015 field, the sides looked identical to all other years (even looked like an andymark one).

**MAYBE their was a game hint in it, concerning what the game was about. If their was a game hint, i think the bin had something to do with it