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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

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As a somewhat relevant question also, does anyone think its feasible for an average team (meaning not sponsored by NASA) to make a bot that can make more than one six stack in the time allotted?
What exactly is this supposed to mean? NASA sponsors a lot of teams on all skill levels. If you are talking about NASA center teams, which we are not, most of these teams have their students doing a large majority of the work I have seen it in action from our neighbors 233 The Pink Team. Being sponsored by NASA is just like be sponsored by any other company. I also know for a fact that these teams would be some of the first to drop what they are doing and give you a hand.

Just some food for thought
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

Here are my predictions for the average scores in Week 1.

Average alliance score with The Noodle Agreement: 148
Average alliance score without TNA: 118

This is based off of one above average stacker (A), one robot capable of pushing totes onto the platform (B), and another robot that doesn't do very much besides move in autonomous (C).

Robot A's contribution to the team is 72 points
  • Carries a container into the auto zone during autonomous
  • Creates 3 stacks of 4 with a container on top
  • Places yellow totes on step for coop (does not create a stack of 4 because I think this will be rare among most alliances)
Robot B contributes 10 points
  • Pushes one container to the auto zone during autonomous
  • Pushes 5 totes onto the platform for 2 points each
Robot C contributes 2 points
  • Moves into their auto zone but does not bring anything with them
  • Struggles to move around the field but manages to put a tote on a platform
  • Pushes 10 litter into landfill

Now we do the math:
  • w/ TNA: 72(A)+10(B)+2(C)+40(TNA)+20(coop)+4(Auto)=148
  • w/o TNA: 72(A)+10(B)+2(C)+20(coop)+4(Auto)+10(landfill litter)=118
Attached is the excel file I created to play around with some numbers.

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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

Week 1 scores will be much lower than week 5 and far lower than those at Regional Championships and, of course, in St. Louis...

My guess:
Week 1 "average" breakdown" for preliminary matches.
Autonomous: 6
Three robots in auto zone will be common, bin sets and tote sets far less so.
Teleop: 25
Getting 5-10 totes into scoring position will be common. A few robots will successfully stack recycle bins.
Noodles: 15
Nearly everybody attempts to stick to "The Noodle Agreement." However, a few scoff at it as it is "not in the spirit of the game." However, many teams find that throwing noodles across the field is not as easy as they thought and noodles commonly are tossed into the landfill on both sides.
Coopertition: 10
Four yellow totes are set on the step in most matches. Stacking four is rare.

Total: 56
I would almost double this total for weeks 5/6

To win week 1: I am guessing that the winning alliance in week one will be putting up 100-150 points per game - with there being a wide discrepency from event to event. In weeks 5/6, would would expect the winning alliance to be putting up 150-200 points in a match.
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

Week 1 scores (for qualification):

Auto: 1 robot set
Total Auto Score: 4
Reasoning: Every year people over estimate how much will be scored in auto. Not very many robots will be able to score more than a robot set, and there will be rounds when auto programs don't work right.

Tele-op: 3 stacks of three totes, all capped with recycling containers
Total Tele-op score: 54
Reasoning: There will be one robot that cannot lift totes and bulldozes a few unto the scoring platforms. The other two robots can stack totes and finish three stacks, one robot can lift containers and caps all three stacks.

Co-op: 1 co-op set
Total Co-op score: 20
Reasoning: at some point a robot will break off and dump 2 yellow totes on the step and then immediately go back to stacking totes.

TNA: 0
Total TNA score: 0
Reasoning: This will either get banned by FIRST or few enough people will know about it that it doesn't happen very often.

Average week 1 qualification score: 78
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

Working solo the 'Snow Problem robot was able to do 30 points in 2:15. It that's a middle tier robot then I wouldn't be surprised to see up to 90 point average for quals. If it's poorer than average, we could seen an average over 120. If it's better than average I'd say somewhere around 40-60.
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

For week 1:

Qualifications:
4 point Robot Set (AUTO)
6 point Tote Set (AUTO)
~60 points for TELEOP stacking
~40 points Coopertition (Yellow Totes, Noodle Agreement)

OVERALL: 110 points

Playoffs:
Scaling above, I'd say around 190 points (no Coopertition Totes)...
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

I think in the future we should save this thread until after the first rules update.
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Re: YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2015's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

I would guess an average score of about 60-65 at qualifications, with eliminations scores between 115-130 (barring foul points).

I see a huge gap between the best-scoring matches and the worst... Top score at my regional (the Colorado one) will probably be about 140 points, though it could be a bit higher or lower. There will likely be a majority of the matches with fewer than thirty points, though.

I wouldn't be surprised if Einstein passes 275, just envious.
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