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Unread 23-01-2015, 15:16
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

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If you were to run the district system in a FIRST Tech Challenge-type style where you have a host team that provides non-key volunteer support and a location to host the district event, I calculate you would need around 35 volunteers for each event, not including the host team volunteers. That is a total of 350 individual volunteer positions that need to be trained for and filled. If run with the assumption at all of our trained volunteers, volunteer twice in a season, that is 175 trained volunteers needed total (this number does not include state).
Evan, your numbers are a little low. Every event requires a minimum of 10 inspectors, 15 judges, 5 or more refs, scoring, queueing... I believe we at the state tournament last year (30 teams, 1 day event) we needed over 100 volunteers to make it happen. Even if we get 50 volubteers from every "host team", we won't have enough. And as it stands, those "host team" volunteers would be inexperienced, and having that many learning on the job would lead to poor experiences for teams.

As things stand today, a disproportionate percentage of our volunteers come from the twin cities. While that would make doing a bunch of district events around here easy, going out to Fargo or La Crescent or St. Cloud or Rochester would be extremely difficult. How many volubteers are we going to require to go out for a weekend just to put on those events, especially when their teams aren't there competing?

If we really want to go to districts, and I've heard teams say they do, then we need every team to step up and give us more volunteers. Using LRI's as an example, we have 2 in the cities and one in La Crescent. A couple more prospective ones from the cities, but that's it. Despite looking, I haven't Been able to find someone appropriate from the Duluth or Fargo or St. Cloud areas. We just don't have people from those areas volunteering as inspectors very much. You would think with two regionals in Duluth we could get some local key volunteers, but most of the ones I can think of are from the cities or other areas.

So a word to all MN teams: we have almost 200 teams in the state right now, yet we get volunteers from maybe 10% oft hose teams. Give us volunteers now and we might be able to get on a path towards districts. Without Training up a bunch and having them well diversified across the state we'll never get there. This is the problem those of us attempting to recruit volunteers know we have, but when we come to the teams we just get "sorry, we don't have anyone that can do it this year" emails. You can't ask for something without helping to make it happen.
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

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Evan, your numbers are a little low.
You're right! In my fast math, I forgot to add judges (although I remembered Judge Advisors and Judge Assistants). I updated and typed up my estimates below, do you see any other inaccuracies I could fix? Thanks!

Code:
Event Coordinator	1
Volunteer Coordinator	1
Hospitality Coordinator	1
Judge Advisor	1
FTA	1
FTAA	1
Scorekeeper	1
CSA	1
LRI	1
Field Supervisor	1
Head Referee	1
Referees	5
A/V Technical Coordinator	1
Field Supervisor Assistant	1
Field Reset	8
MC	1
Game Announcer	1
Lead Queuer	1
Queuing	4
Pit Admin	2
Spare Parts	1
Inspectors	10
Volunteer Room	2
Food Setup	3
Welcome Table/Registration	2
Photography & Social Media	2
VIP Area	2
Safety Glasses Lead	1
Safety Glasses Attendant	5
Judge Assistants	2
Judges	15
	
Total	80
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

We were in the third place alliance at Northern Lights It was so much fun, thanks guys for the great time! (Our robot 2846 was the one that grabbed and stacked 2 totes horizontally.)

We noticed a few discrepancies between the five columns at the bottom and the total final score when scouting. Are those supposed to add up every time?

Also scouting. We did scout at Northern Lights. There are teams that have much more accurate scouting data but it's better than using the force We posted part of it on our website here
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

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We noticed a few discrepancies between the five columns at the bottom and the total final score when scouting. Are those supposed to add up every time?
I noticed this also - it's always off by some multiple of 6. (Our score average was low by 24 points for example.) I'm sure there is some reason - I don't know what it is.
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

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I noticed this also - it's always off by some multiple of 6. (Our score average was low by 24 points for example.) I'm sure there is some reason - I don't know what it is.
Do either of you have pictures of these discrepancies or remember which match(es) they occurred in?
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

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We noticed a few discrepancies between the five columns at the bottom and the total final score when scouting. Are those supposed to add up every time?
It might be:

For teams that played, or will play, 7 matches, the 3rd match does not count towards the average (only 6 matches are averaged). Seems like the column totals are for all 7 matches.

Also, foul points would affect the average, but may not be in the columns.
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

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It might be:

For teams that played, or will play, 7 matches, the 3rd match does not count towards the average (only 6 matches are averaged). Seems like the column totals are for all 7 matches.

Also, foul points would affect the average, but may not be in the columns.
At Northern lights, there were 60 teams and no surrogate matches were played. The same would have been true on Lake Superior with 63 teams. Each team played 9 qualification matches and all of them should have counted towards averages.

The FRC stats page at http://frc-events.usfirst.org/2015/MNDU/rankings is not up to date. But you will notice that there is no column for fouls, and with each foul being 6 points that would explain the "off by six" issues.
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

Our match videos including the Double DECCer match are posted on YouTube.

http://youtu.be/Fala_TBWcpM
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

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Double Decker, week one, rushing to you! WHO'S READY TO RECYCLE!!!!!
If anyone has any questions about the city or venue, feel free to ask.

In addition, robot roll call?
Team 3122 here! Lake Superior Regional

Also, we will be doing the live webcast of the competition. You can find more information on http://newulmrobotics.com/webcast and also by following the twitter page @MNDU_Webcast.
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

Bluejacket Robotics will be there.... Rookie team from Cambridge Isanti High School. #5464
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

3883 will be in attendance as always, and for the first time since our rookie year, on the other side of the regional. We'll also be with all the other teams in our school district (sans Woodbury, sadly), which I find especially cool.
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Re: Double Decker in Duluth

It was a blast! Winning the judges award was awesome!
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