Limit Swtich Help

[curtis0gj]

Hi guys, our team is trying to use a limit switch to stop the lifting mech powered by 2 victor motor controllers from bottoming out or flying off the top. But I can't get the switch to work properly.

public class Robot extends SampleRobot {
	
    RobotDrive robot;
    Joystick stick;
    Joystick xbox;

    Victor victor1;
    Victor victor2;
    DigitalInput limit;
    
    
    boolean limitPressed = false;

    boolean buttonPressedForwardVictor = false;

public Robot() {
    	
    	robot = new RobotDrive(0, 1);
        stick = new Joystick(1);
        xbox = new Joystick(0);

        limit = new DigitalInput(4);	
        
        victor1 = new Victor(4);
        victor2 = new Victor(5);
 
    }

public void operatorControl() {
    	
    	while (isOperatorControl() && isEnabled()) {
        	
            stick.getThrottle();
            robot.arcadeDrive(stick.getY(), stick.getX());
            Timer.delay(0.1);
     
            if(limit.get()) {
            	
            	limitPressed = true;
            	
            }
            
            if(limitPressed = true) {
            	
            	victor1.set(0);
            	victor2.set(0);
            	
            }
            
            if (xbox.getRawButton(4)) {
            	
            	victor1.set(1);
            	victor2.set(1);
            	buttonPressedForwardVictor = true;
            	
            } else if (buttonPressedForwardVictor = true) {
            	
            	victor1.set(0);
            	victor2.set(0);
            	buttonPressedForwardVictor = false;
            } 
            
            if (xbox.getRawButton(1)) {
            	
            	victor1.set(-1);
            	victor2.set(-1);
            }
            
            	
            }
            
    	}

[Jon Stratis]

You need to use "==" inside of an if statement to get a Boolean. A single "=" is an assignment operation and won't do what you want it to do.

[curtis0gj]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

You need to use "==" inside of an if statement to get a Boolean. A single "=" is an assignment operation and won't do what you want it to do.

No luck with that but I did make those changes.

[Ether]

A single "=" is an assignment operation and won't do what you want it to do.

True. (Hey, a little Boolean humor there).

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

You need to use "==" inside of an if statement to get a Boolean.

You don't need "==" to return a Boolean: a single "=" inside an if() statement will indeed return a Boolean. But as you said above, not what the OP was expecting.

If you already have an appropriately-named Boolean variable, you can cleanly code it by simply testing the variable:

if (limitPressed) {...}

[curtis0gj]

Originally Posted by Ether

True. (Hey, a little Boolean humor there).



You don't need "==" to return a Boolean: a single "=" inside an if() statement will indeed return a Boolean. But as you said above, not what the OP was expecting.

If you already have an appropriately-named Boolean variable, you can cleanly code it by simply testing the variable:

if (limitPressed) {...}

So I will keep my if statements to one =. The limit switch is still not working here is a link for a picture of it. http://imgur.com/nRB3VqN. We used ground and signal from our pwm and it goes to DIO 4.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by curtis0gj

So I will keep my if statements to one =.

You did not read my post very carefully.

[curtis0gj]

Originally Posted by Ether

You did not read my post very carefully.

Oh sorry I miss read that reply I understand now, my bad

[Jon Stratis]

Ok, some analysis of the logic.

First, the only place you set limitPressed to false is at the very beginning. by having

            if(limit.get()) {
            	
            	limitPressed = true;
            	
            }

in operatorControl, this means that once the limit switch is pressed, limitPressed will ALWAYS be true - there is nothing to set it to false later.

Also, there is an interesting case where you hit the limit switch, so you set them to 0, but if you're still holding button 4 you then immediately set them to 1. What happens is you start to quickly oscillate between setting the motors to 0 and 1 as long as both button 4 and the limit switch is pressed.

Now, a note about how limit switches work (I'm afraid I can't view the picture from where I am... it's blocked by the school's connection). There are two ways to wire them, and they act exactly opposite in code. If you wire signal and ground to the common/normally open connectors, the switch will be TRUE when not touched, and FALSE when pressed. Connect between the common/normally closed connectors, and it operates the other way.

So, here's some code that should help:

//ensure that limitPressed is true only when the limit switch is pressed
limitPressed = limit.get();

//output the value of limitPressed so we can verify proper functionality of the limit switch
System.out.println(“limitPressed=“ + limitPressed);


//if we hit the limit switch, stop all motion
if (limitPressed)
{
	victor1.set(0);
	victor2.set(0);
}
//otherwise, if we hit button 4 move forward
else if (xbox.getRawButton(4))
{
	victor1.set(1);
	victor2.set(1);
}
//otherwise, if we aren’t pressing anything don’t move.
else 
{
	victor1.set(0);
	victor2.set(0);
}

This code only works to power the motors in a single direction, with the assumption that moving in that direction will trigger the limit switch. Without knowing the exact setup, I can't be sure about powering in both directions and stopping at both limits... I'll leave the other direction up to you.

Note a couple of things in the code:

First, I'm writing the value of the limitPressed variable to the console. This will let you look in the RIOLog to see what it is at all times - before moving anything, try manually pressing it and see how the value changes. You want to make sure this works before doing anything else!

Next, ALL of the controls for the motors are contained in a single if/else-if block. This means that only one of them will be active at a time. The default state (the final else) is to stop the motors - if you aren't touching anything, they'll stop. The limit switch control comes first to ensure that, if the limit switch is pressed, it absolutely doesn't move.

Give that a try, see if it helps, and see if you can figure out the other direction from there!

[curtis0gj]

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis

Ok, some analysis of the logic.

First, the only place you set limitPressed to false is at the very beginning. by having

            if(limit.get()) {
            	
            	limitPressed = true;
            	
            }

in operatorControl, this means that once the limit switch is pressed, limitPressed will ALWAYS be true - there is nothing to set it to false later.

Also, there is an interesting case where you hit the limit switch, so you set them to 0, but if you're still holding button 4 you then immediately set them to 1. What happens is you start to quickly oscillate between setting the motors to 0 and 1 as long as both button 4 and the limit switch is pressed.

Now, a note about how limit switches work (I'm afraid I can't view the picture from where I am... it's blocked by the school's connection). There are two ways to wire them, and they act exactly opposite in code. If you wire signal and ground to the common/normally open connectors, the switch will be TRUE when not touched, and FALSE when pressed. Connect between the common/normally closed connectors, and it operates the other way.

So, here's some code that should help:

//ensure that limitPressed is true only when the limit switch is pressed
limitPressed = limit.get();

//output the value of limitPressed so we can verify proper functionality of the limit switch
System.out.println(“limitPressed=“ + limitPressed);


//if we hit the limit switch, stop all motion
if (limitPressed)
{
	victor1.set(0);
	victor2.set(0);
}
//otherwise, if we hit button 4 move forward
else if (xbox.getRawButton(4))
{
	victor1.set(1);
	victor2.set(1);
}
//otherwise, if we aren’t pressing anything don’t move.
else 
{
	victor1.set(0);
	victor2.set(0);
}

This code only works to power the motors in a single direction, with the assumption that moving in that direction will trigger the limit switch. Without knowing the exact setup, I can't be sure about powering in both directions and stopping at both limits... I'll leave the other direction up to you.

Note a couple of things in the code:

First, I'm writing the value of the limitPressed variable to the console. This will let you look in the RIOLog to see what it is at all times - before moving anything, try manually pressing it and see how the value changes. You want to make sure this works before doing anything else!

Next, ALL of the controls for the motors are contained in a single if/else-if block. This means that only one of them will be active at a time. The default state (the final else) is to stop the motors - if you aren't touching anything, they'll stop. The limit switch control comes first to ensure that, if the limit switch is pressed, it absolutely doesn't move.

Give that a try, see if it helps, and see if you can figure out the other direction from there!

Thank you so much, our team has been struggling along in the programming department this year mostly because I am the only programmer and it is my first year programming in java. But this is a great help and I think I will be far more confident when using booleans in the future. I will post an update tomorrow afternoon regarding the limit switch status, thanks!

[curtis0gj]

I have setup the limit switch program with the suggestions but I am attempting to setup reverse for the victors. Also I am trying to setup the same if statement layout for my relays does this look okay?

public class Robot extends SampleRobot {
    RobotDrive robot;
    Joystick stick;
    Joystick xbox;
    Relay spike1;
    Relay spike2;
    Victor victor1;
    Victor victor2;
    DigitalInput limit;
    boolean limitPressed = false;

    public Robot() {
    	robot = new RobotDrive(0, 1);
        stick = new Joystick(1);
        xbox = new Joystick(0);
        spike1 = new Relay(0);
        spike2 = new Relay(1);
        limit = new DigitalInput(4);
        victor1 = new Victor(4);
        victor2 = new Victor(5);
    }
    public void operatorControl() {
    	
    	while (isOperatorControl() && isEnabled()) {
            stick.getThrottle();
            robot.arcadeDrive(stick.getY(), stick.getX());
            limitPressed = limit.get(); //Do I want this out side of my while operator control loop?
            System.out.println("limitPressed=" + limitPressed); //Read the RoboRIO log for some values before you go all out on your motors.
            
            if(limitPressed) {
            	victor1.set(0);
            	victor2.set(0);
            } else if (xbox.getRawButton(4)) {
            	victor1.set(1);
            	victor2.set(1);
            } else {
            	victor1.set(0);
            	victor1.set(0);
            }
            if(xbox.getRawButton(1)) {
            	victor1.set(-1);
            	victor1.set(-1);
            } else {
            	victor1.set(0);
            	victor2.set(0);
            }
            if(xbox.getRawButton(3)) {
            	spike1.set(Relay.Value.kForward);
            	spike2.set(Relay.Value.kForward);
            } else {
            	spike1.set(Relay.Value.kOff);
            	spike2.set(Relay.Value.kOff);            	
            }
            if(xbox.getRawButton(2)) {
            	spike1.set(Relay.Value.kReverse);
            	spike2.set(Relay.Value.kReverse);	
            } else {
            	spike1.set(Relay.Value.kOff);
            	spike2.set(Relay.Value.kOff);
            }    
    	}
    }

[mmaunu]

Originally Posted by curtis0gj

I have setup...

public class Robot extends SampleRobot {
    
            if(limitPressed) {
            	victor1.set(0);
            	victor2.set(0);
            } else if (xbox.getRawButton(4)) {
            	victor1.set(1);
            	victor2.set(1);
            } else {
            	victor1.set(0);
            	victor1.set(0);
            }
            if(xbox.getRawButton(1)) {
            	victor1.set(-1);
            	victor1.set(-1);
            } else {

A quick glance (I'll look longer later) shows that you have set victor1 twice in several places when you should be setting victor1 and victor2.

Ether: I have learned so much from reading your posts and papers over the years. I didn't intend to sound like I was correcting your post but merely adding explicit context for other readers.

[curtis0gj]

Originally Posted by mmaunu

A quick glance (I'll look longer later) shows that you have set victor1 twice in several places when you should be setting victor1 and victor2.

Woops I will fix that up thanks.

[cstelter]

Originally Posted by mmaunu

Ether: I have learned so much from reading your posts and papers over the years. I didn't intend to sound like I was correcting your post but merely adding explicit context for other readers.

I for one appreciated the post. As a C/C++ guy who only recently has been using java (and only WRT FRC), I would have expected

int x=0;
if(x=8)
{
}

to compile fine. I didn't realize the if statement was strongly typed to boolean in java (kind of would have expected it to be overloaded to many types or that there may be some sort of implicit conversion of int to boolean that would happen transparently.)

Of course had I tried to code it, eclipse/netbeans/whatever would have let me know I was wrong long before I tried compile.

Reminds me of the most 'duh' moment I ever had that IDE's don't tend to flag for us yet. I had coded something along the lines of

int x=0;
...
if(x==4 && something_else==2 && something_else==some_other_thing);
{
//some stuff to do
}

It took me the longest time to figure out why I kept entering the if clause even though I was nearly 100% certain that x was *not* 4 and thus the hypothesis should evaluate to false. Finally I put in a sanity check to print x and confirmed that I was right (x was not 4 and the full expression for the if evaluated to false). Only then was I able to see the error of my ways...

sorry to send this slightly off topic.... I did appreciate the points made thoug.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by mmaunu

Ether: I have learned so much from reading your posts and papers over the years. I didn't intend to sound like I was correcting your post but merely adding explicit context for other readers.

Understood. The additional explanation you provided was appropriate and useful. Reps :-)

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by curtis0gj

I have setup the limit switch program with the suggestions but I am attempting to setup reverse for the victors. Also I am trying to setup the same if statement layout for my relays does this look okay?

public class Robot extends SampleRobot {
    RobotDrive robot;
    Joystick stick;
    Joystick xbox;
    Relay spike1;
    Relay spike2;
    Victor victor1;
    Victor victor2;
    DigitalInput limit;
    boolean limitPressed = false;

    public Robot() {
    	robot = new RobotDrive(0, 1);
        stick = new Joystick(1);
        xbox = new Joystick(0);
        spike1 = new Relay(0);
        spike2 = new Relay(1);
        limit = new DigitalInput(4);
        victor1 = new Victor(4);
        victor2 = new Victor(5);
    }
    public void operatorControl() {
    	
    	while (isOperatorControl() && isEnabled()) {
            stick.getThrottle();
            robot.arcadeDrive(stick.getY(), stick.getX());
            limitPressed = limit.get(); //Do I want this out side of my while operator control loop?
            System.out.println("limitPressed=" + limitPressed); //Read the RoboRIO log for some values before you go all out on your motors.
            
            if(limitPressed) {
            	victor1.set(0);
            	victor2.set(0);
            } else if (xbox.getRawButton(4)) {
            	victor1.set(1);
            	victor2.set(1);
            } else {
            	victor1.set(0);
            	victor1.set(0);
            }
            if(xbox.getRawButton(1)) {
            	victor1.set(-1);
            	victor1.set(-1);
            } else {
            	victor1.set(0);
            	victor2.set(0);
            }
            if(xbox.getRawButton(3)) {
            	spike1.set(Relay.Value.kForward);
            	spike2.set(Relay.Value.kForward);
            } else {
            	spike1.set(Relay.Value.kOff);
            	spike2.set(Relay.Value.kOff);            	
            }
            if(xbox.getRawButton(2)) {
            	spike1.set(Relay.Value.kReverse);
            	spike2.set(Relay.Value.kReverse);	
            } else {
            	spike1.set(Relay.Value.kOff);
            	spike2.set(Relay.Value.kOff);
            }    
    	}
    }

The relays look good. In addition to double victor1's which have already been pointed out, consider the effect of pushing buttons 1 and 4 at the same time - you'll oscillate between full speed forward and full speed reverse. It's probably not a big deal, as your driver shouldn't be pushing them both at the same time anyways, but I personally like to prevent that sort of situation. Using some fairly simple logic, you can reduce everything dealing with the victors to a single if/else-if/else block. Something like:

if ()//the conditions you want it to go up
{
    //go up
}
else if ()//the conditions you want it to go down
{
    //go down
}
else
{
    //stop
}

You can set up the conditionals using the AND (&&) operator, the OR (||) operator, and the not (!). For example, to say "when button 4 is pressed and the limit switch is not pressed", you would do "xbox.getRawButton(4) || !limitPressed". Figuring out how to use logic like this is a very powerful tool while programming!