How many points will you score?

[MrJohnston]

Now that the robots are bagged, we've seen some "week zero" competitions, etc, we should have a much better idea how well we're going to perform. As a follow-up to the previous polls, how many points will your robot be able to score individually in your first competition? Assume ideal conditions. If you need help making sets/stacks, divide the total by two... Do not include pool noodles unless you are sticking them in recycling containers...

[Bryce2471]

My apologies. When I tried to submit my vote, my phone freaked out, leading me to accidentally selected 150 pts. I meant to select just about 100 including coopertition.

Sorry for skewing the results.

[Joseph1825]

For anyone who want to reference them, here are the links to the first two of these polls.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=133917
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=133187

[magnets]

I'm still surprised by how high some of these numbers are (I'm looking at those who said they'd score over 150...)

Either these teams are amazingly fantastic, are being unrealistic, or are lying (or I'm overly pessimistic).

I think we'll realistically be scoring in the 40 to 50 point range at our first event, but I'm optimistic that we can pull off another mechanism that should give us the opportunity to score a little more.

[Squillo]

I assume this does not include coopertition, since no alliance/robot can do coopertition "by itself" (you need a yellow tote from the other side). Or should I have put in 1/2 of the coopertition points we will be able to help make?

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by magnets

I'm still surprised by how high some of these numbers are (I'm looking at those who said they'd score over 150...)

Either these teams are amazingly fantastic, are being unrealistic, or are lying (or I'm overly pessimistic).

I think we'll realistically be scoring in the 40 to 50 point range at our first event, but I'm optimistic that we can pull off another mechanism that should give us the opportunity to score a little more.

20 point auto, 40 point co-op, 3 6 can stacks w/ container and noodle at 42 points each.

Not a stretch by any means.

[Bryce2471]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

20 point auto, 40 point co-op, 3 6 can stacks w/ container and noodle at 42 points each.

Not a stretch by any means.

I agree. Although, something makes me doubt that 7 people are actually this optimistic so early in the season. The 150+ button happens to be right next to the submit button, so I wouldn't be surprised if several of those did the same thing that I did.

[Jared]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

20 point auto, 40 point co-op, 3 6 can stacks w/ container and noodle at 42 points each.

Not a stretch by any means.

Perhaps it's not a stretch for some teams, but I would be very surprised if 10 percent of teams were able to have a 20 point autonomous, the ability to make 3 perfect stacks, AND co-op stacks in just 2:15?

To do that, a team must intake 20 totes, 3 containers, insert 3 noodles, and deposit 4 stacks.

[Nathan Streeter]

40 point co-op can't be completed (legally) by one robot... but if an opponent robot to assist with the co-op's included, then I think there will be at least one team at most districts/regionals that averages around 80-100pts per match. The elite teams will probably average 100-150pts per match.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Jared

Perhaps it's not a stretch for some teams, but I would be very surprised if 10 percent of teams were able to have a 20 point autonomous, the ability to make 3 perfect stacks, AND co-op stacks in just 2:15?

To do that, a team must intake 20 totes, 3 containers, insert 3 noodles, and deposit 4 stacks.

I didn't say that 10% would be able to do it, just that it was doable.

[PayneTrain]

A team that can move 12-15 game pieces in a match during week 1 is going to be the best team at the event.

[Jared]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

I didn't say that 10% would be able to do it, just that it was doable.

I agree- we'll see an enormous gap between the "elite" teams and other teams this year. Some crazy teams may be able to do it, but it won't be very common.

Raw number of points scored isn't the best metric to determine the contribution to an alliance. A super accurate, fast, and repeatable capping robot or a robot which grabs containers from the step in autonomous might be critical to enable scoring (or prevent the opposing team from scoring).

[Nathan Streeter]

Originally Posted by Jared

I agree- we'll see an enormous gap between the "elite" teams and other teams this year. Some crazy teams may be able to do it, but it won't be very common.

Raw number of points scored isn't the best metric to determine the contribution to an alliance. A super accurate, fast, and repeatable capping robot or a robot which grabs containers from the step in autonomous might be critical to enable scoring (or prevent the opposing team from scoring).

Agreed on both.

Which is why I think OPR and QA may actually be incredibly informative this year. At events with 12+ matches per team and for teams that have gotten their wrinkles largely smoothed out, they may be more informative than averaging the number of points the team scored directly.

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by Nathan Streeter

Agreed on both.

Which is why I think OPR and QA may actually be incredibly informative this year. At events with 12+ matches per team and for teams that have gotten their wrinkles largely smoothed out, they may be more informative than averaging the number of points the team scored directly.

Glad you are both valuing for fast cappers (with noodle)..one of the things we can do if needed very effectively with precision with human player aid. I was thinking that may be our best play along with Gold Totes. We can stack those too. So much to do so little time. 2:15 goes FAST.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

20 point auto, 40 point co-op, 3 6 can stacks w/ container and noodle at 42 points each.

Not a stretch by any means.

Because it said individually, I didnt factor in the 40 point co-op when selecting our choice.
With that being said, I was surprised to see several teams choose 150+.