Week 1 Number One Seed Score Average

[mrnoble]

I'm pretty sure that there are more quality machines being built today than there were, say, five years ago. Credit that to increasing participation in and awareness of CD, Ri3D videos, and fantastic bumps in quality from AndyMark, Vex, and other suppliers. I think people are still overestimating the scoring ability of robots (usually their own), and that #1 seed scores will be <100, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were two or three or more robots that can pull off the three tote auto at each regional.

[hionwind]

Originally Posted by MrJohnston

Now, I would like to think that these very good robots do not have partners that average zero points for themselves. Perhaps they average adding 20 points per robot to an alliance? So, we have a range of 118-148...

Was that deliberate or just a coincidence (Robonauts - Robowranglers)?

[PayneTrain]

Are you asking for QA or individual robot score? QA is probably between 80 and 100, Personal is 45-70.

If y'all think most Week 1 events are gonna have more than 12 teams that resemble remote competence in this game, I have some sand in the desert to sell you. You aren't playing against any defense this year, but you are playing on probably the hardest field ever.

[Craig]

3x 4 tote stacks with rc...90
3/4 coop pts for 30 more
a modest 12 in auto?

Put me down for at least 130 to be the #1 seed.

Maybe I'm biased with the bar so high up in Ontario

[Pretzel]

One thing to keep in mind is that the Dallas regional is in Week 1. That'll certainly pull the average up quite a bit for the #1 seeded robots.

[eddie12390]

Originally Posted by PayneTrain

Are you asking for QA -snip-?

My focus was on the qualifying average as it's easier to compare to then each team's individual contribution.

[Zebra_Fact_Man]

I find it difficult to believe the the #1 seeded robot won't be able to on average score 3 six-tote stacks worth of points as an alliance, even with 2 limited-functionality robots as partners. Add in the coop stack which should be close to 100%:

36 x 3 + 40 = easily 140.

Forget auton points and you should still be scoring 140.

[Abhishek R]

I would be really impressed if any team can consistently make 3 stacks 6 high with a can on top every match.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by Abhishek R

I would be really impressed if any team can consistently make 3 stacks 6 high with a can on top every match.

If you can grab a tote/bin every 6 seconds, it can be done.

[Abhishek R]

Originally Posted by dodar

If you can grab a tote/bin every 6 seconds, it can be done.

That's why I said I would be impressed; I didn't say it was impossible. 6 seconds per game piece is incredible efficiency.

[Zebra_Fact_Man]

Originally Posted by Abhishek R

I would be really impressed if any team can consistently make 3 stacks 6 high with a can on top every match.

Originally Posted by Zebra_Fact_Man

I find it difficult to believe the the #1 seeded robot won't be able to on average score 3 six-tote stacks worth of points as an alliance

That's why I specified as an alliance. The best robots this year might not be the ones that can do the most independently, but can do the most with any other robot alliance members AKA the team player.

[Abhishek R]

Originally Posted by Zebra_Fact_Man

That's why I specified as an alliance. The best robots this year might not be the ones that can do the most independently, but can do the most with any other robot alliance members AKA the team player.

Yup, agreed.

[MrForbes]

Although what the "team player" can accomplish, is limited by the capabilities of the "team" (alliance).

Which is why it's going to vary quite a bit between regionals, and on average probably will end up around 100 points.

[GeeTwo]

Ok, I'm puzzed. I know there's no mathematical validity in the musings below, but trying to make sense of these polls is failing me.

At the How many points do you think your robot could score individually? thread, the median answer is at the very high end of the 61-70 range, so the median responder expects to score about 70 points. (The mean isn't far off, though it's difficult to evaluate with the last, indeterminate value.)

On this poll, the median responder expects the average regional top seed to be 100. Assuming the populations of the two polls are similar, this raises the question:

Does a typical responder

• expect alliance partners to only average 15 points each, and to be top seed
• expect even worse performance from partners
• change expectations that much in four days
• something else?

[bduddy]

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

Ok, I'm puzzed. I know there's no mathematical validity in the musings below, but trying to make sense of these polls is failing me.

At the How many points do you think your robot could score individually? thread, the median answer is at the very high end of the 61-70 range, so the median responder expects to score about 70 points. (The mean isn't far off, though it's difficult to evaluate with the last, indeterminate value.)

On this poll, the median responder expects the average regional top seed to be 100. Assuming the populations of the two polls are similar, this raises the question:

Does a typical responder

• expect alliance partners to only average 15 points each, and to be top seed
• expect even worse performance from partners
• change expectations that much in four days
• something else?

I would wager that the typical respondent here has an above-average robot, and likely does expect their alliance partners to be much worse than them. Many are also not participating in Week 1. The previous poll could also be construed as asking about potential maximum performance, not necessarily performance in the first event.