Strategy Badges

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by April_robo

As I was walking around this weekend trying to get the scouting information I have collected to my team and talk strategy with our alliances. I ran into great difficulty. A few things I ran into:

1. Some teams had a 3 match turnaround and came off the field and were right back in queing.
2. I could not talk to my team in que because I am not allowed on the field.

This proved to be quite difficult as sometimes in the que was the only place we could get all our alliance members together to talk strategy. After I had gotten very frustrated I came up with a solution!!! (After all that is what FIRST is about, isn't it) I came up with the idea of a strategy badge. These people would be allowed in queuing but not allowed on the field during a match. This has become an issue because usually the coach is not the head strategy/scout person so they don't have the information.

I talked to a few coaches and other lead scouters on other teams and they thought this was a good idea. I was wondering if any other teams have run into this issue and what you think about the strategy badge.

Not happening. The field has enough people walking around and it's crowded and chaotic enough. Take care of strategy beforehand.

[April_robo]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Not happening. The field has enough people walking around and it's crowded and chaotic enough. Take care of strategy beforehand.

The strategy people would not be allowed on the field only in queuing.

The problem which has already been stated is that the coaches do not have the proper information to create a well informed match strategy. The coaches are usually going on what the other teams say and not what stats say.

Last year I was a senior on my very small team. I was head scout and driver and never got any down time. Although this worked to my advantage because I knew how the other teams were doing but I was constantly moving and never really got to talk to other teams other than in queuing.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by April_robo

The strategy people would not be allowed on the field only in queuing.

The problem which has already been stated is that the coaches do not have the proper information to create a well informed match strategy. The coaches are usually going on what the other teams say and not what stats say.

Last year I was a senior on my very small team. I was head scout and driver and never got any down time. Although this worked to my advantage because I knew how the other teams were doing but I was constantly moving and never really got to talk to other teams other than in queuing.

Queing is in the field area.

[eedoga]

What about going the other way...What if the coaches in each alliance were allowed to step out of the cue and go to a marked out strategy area along with 1 scout from each team...It could be off the field, and could be regulated to when the teams were not on deck...so 2 - 3 matches back depending on the depth of cueing?

Edoga

[April_robo]

Originally Posted by eedoga

What about going the other way...What if the coaches in each alliance were allowed to step out of the cue and go to a marked out strategy area along with 1 scout from each team...It could be off the field, and could be regulated to when the teams were not on deck...so 2 - 3 matches back depending on the depth of cueing?

Edoga

Originally Posted by Chris is me

As a strategist not on the drive team though, the best way you can deal with this is to figure out probable strategies several matches in advance and talk to partners while your team is queueing / on the field for their previous match. Then once everyone is in the same place you can run through it quickly.

And we still run into the problem of teams being out on the field while trying to do strategy.

[Sperkowsky]

You could text the drive team. I'm sure everyone has phones. Our scouts just text strategy to our drive team. Works fine. Only issue is when they venue has bad reception (NYC regional)

[Jacob Bendicksen]

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky

Only issue is when they venue has bad reception (NYC regional)

Unfortunately, many events have bad reception, the Edward Jones Dome (Championship venue) in particular.

[April_robo]

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky

You could text the drive team. I'm sure everyone has phones. Our scouts just text strategy to our drive team. Works fine. Only issue is when they venue has bad reception (NYC regional)

This does not solve the issue of being able to talk to the other drive teams on your alliance.

[Sperkowsky]

Originally Posted by April_robo

This does not solve the issue of being able to talk to the other drive teams on your alliance.

I think regardless of a strategy badge or not it that will still be an issue.