Michigan State Championship

[Jaywalker1711]

Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime

What is meant by "no Chairman's displays?"

In past years there was a separate area for little chairman's award pits, but these (thankfully, in my opinion) will not be there this year

Originally Posted by Christopher149

There are also several well-known teams that I'm surprised won't be at MSC (like 74 Team CHAOS and 51 The Wings of Fire).

I was pretty shocked to see that as well, especially considering 74's performance last season. A pretty good team from our area, 3767, didn't make the cutoff either.

It should be one very exciting district championship

[Christopher149]

Originally Posted by Jaywalker1711

I was pretty shocked to see that as well, especially considering 74's performance last season. A pretty good team from our area, 3767, didn't make the cutoff either.

It should be one very exciting district championship

Yeah, 74 really suffered performance-wise at Kentwood. If they could have only counted their 2nd and 3rd district events, they probably would have made MSC.

[hardcopi]

Does anyone know how MSC will be set up this year? I know there are going to be 2 fields. Are team matches split between the two or are they run like the divisions in St Louis.

Our data collection people are going a little nuts trying to figure out how to do data (our team takes data pretty seriously, this year we have 9-11 people at any given time doing data and adding another field to keep track of would be a bit overwhelming to say the least.

[Ed Law]

Originally Posted by hardcopi

Does anyone know how MSC will be set up this year? I know there are going to be 2 fields. Are team matches split between the two or are they run like the divisions in St Louis.

Our data collection people are going a little nuts trying to figure out how to do data (our team takes data pretty seriously, this year we have 9-11 people at any given time doing data and adding another field to keep track of would be a bit overwhelming to say the least.

From what I heard, even number matches on one field and odd number matches on another. Tell me about the problem with collecting scouting data. You probably know 2834 is also very very serious about collecting data. We bought 6 more tablets in order to get all the data from both fields. Tell me we are obsessed with data.

[hardcopi]

Really you hide your obsession so well.

We have 6 kids with tablets... 1 per team keeping track of quantitative data. Then we have 3 kids and 2 mentors keeping track of qualitative data. This of course doesn't include the scouts who are coming up with strategies for upcoming matches and talking to the drive team using the data from the qualitative data team.

The quantitative data comes into play when we decide our pick list. To properly do 2 fields we would need to double our team size. At the end of each event we have a full database and several full binders of information. Might not be at your level yet Ed but we are working on it.

[NathanCJohnson]

5517 is very excited to be attending the Michigan State Championship! We are a rookie team and when we first started we did not think we would ever make it this far at all. This has been an amazing experience the last few months for us all.

Jaywalker1711: What a small world haha... my team chose your team at Kettering for eliminations! Great job at winning Traverse City!

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime

What is meant by "no Chairman's displays?"

MSC used to have a Hall of Fame like setup in the hallway for all the Hall of Fame finalists up until last year but did away with it.

[Spartan710]

Yeah we were upset we didn't make it but we had a rough start at kentwood and then got it together at west Michigan and escanaba. It was to late though. Good luck to all the teams there and we will see some of you in St. Louis.

[JosephC]

Can't wait to see all the great teams at MSC and my volunteer buddies! Hopefully Ed will be returning this year

Let's put up some scores and show the rest of the world what we got!

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by JosephC

Can't wait to see all the great teams at MSC and my volunteer buddies! Hopefully Ed will be returning this year

Let's put up some scores and show the rest of the world what we got!

I am.

[nikeairmancurry]

After watching the PNW and Indiana District champs last weekend, I expect 80+ teams to average over 100 points per match and maybe even a few over 200..

Ed is right. Even matches on one field and odd on the other.

I also think there may be a surprise still be had.

[angelah]

Any more info for those of us trying to plan scouting on limited resources (I have six students left total once I take out the drive team and one pit person)? Estimated number of matches? Will the odd and even matches play simultaneously or one after another? Can you see both fields if you get a decent seat? etc....

And I agree, we are thankful here that there is no Chairman's booth. We weren't sure how we could staff it.

Oh, and does anyone know for sure if they are interviewing Dean's List semi-finalists again at States? I have heard yes and no.

[nikeairmancurry]

Originally Posted by angelah

Any more info for those of us trying to plan scouting on limited resources (I have six students left total once I take out the drive team and one pit person)? Estimated number of matches? Will the odd and even matches play simultaneously or one after another? Can you see both fields if you get a decent seat? etc....

And I agree, we are thankful here that there is no Chairman's booth. We weren't sure how we could staff it.

Oh, and does anyone know for sure if they are interviewing Dean's List semi-finalists again at States? I have heard yes and no.

102 Teams / 6 Teams per Match = 17

17 x 12 Matches = 204 Matches

Matches played one after another. I would suppose some seating will be good to see both fields.

My suggestion: Hook up with another team with scouting. I do know a few teams that are also doing this. Never hurts to ask for help.

[angelah]

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry

102 Teams / 6 Teams per Match = 17

17 x 12 Matches = 204 Matches

Matches played one after another. I would suppose some seating will be good to see both fields.

My suggestion: Hook up with another team with scouting. I do know a few teams that are also doing this. Never hurts to ask for help.

Oh, wow, I had no idea it was still only 12 matches. That's good t o know. We haven't been to states in years.

Yeah, I'm thinking we need to find someone to work with.

[Joe Johnson]

Originally Posted by angelah

Oh, wow, I had no idea it was still only 12 matches. That's good t o know. We haven't been to states in years.

Yeah, I'm thinking we need to find someone to work with.

100 teams & 12 Matches, that is a pretty crummy ratio of over 8:1.

A typical District has a ratio of under 4:1. For this year's game, perhaps it isn't such a big deal but for typical years, I think this sorting would be pretty terrible.

Remember that one of the great thinks that going to 8 Divisions at the Worlds is that the number of teams per district dropped from 100 per division down to 75.

My two cents.

Dr. Joe J.