Registration 2016

[Cothron Theiss]

Anyone want to shed some light on why the PNW District average cost per team is several thousand dollars more than the others?

[Mark McLeod]

It's because PNW uses a fixed price.
I hope that in actual practice the cost may be offset by hardship and other support grants to low-funded teams that PNW may provide.

For instance, 199 Regional Rookies paid only $6000 each to play - no second events or world championship-almost 1000 Regional vets only paid $5000 to play. Even paying for two Regional events is cheaper than the single PNW price, but the PNW price includes the District Championship if the team qualifies.
Overall across the board there were only 10 District teams that chose to play only a single event.

[Jon Stratis]

FIM-MR had 453 teams and 148 at DCMP, if I'm reading that right - 32% of teams. 37 attended a third district, or 8%. 18 attended a regional, or 4%.

PNW, on the other hand, had 158 teams and 64 at DCMP - 40% of teams. 10 teams attended 3 districts, or 6%. 2 attending a regional, or 1.3%.

I suspect at least part of it comes from that math. You had a higher percentage of teams spend more money to attend more events in PNW than in other places.

I think there's also a difference in the district cost depending on the district, isn't there?

[Mark McLeod]

Here are the updated registration costs, for the past 2016 season:
(Still looking for official PNW final pricing sources, since actual PNW average price is almost certainly higher.)

Total registration fees amounted to: $23,927,495

Area/Type --------------------- Total Cost ----- Avg cost per team ------- Number of events

Regional Rookies -------------- $1,946,000 --- Avg/team = $7,371 ----- 241=1 event, 23=2 events, 54=CMP
Regional Vets ----------------- $12,753,000 --- Avg/team = $7,519 ----- 1035=1 event, 610=2 events, 51=3 events, 285=CMP
FIM-MAR Rookies ---------------- $585,500 --- Avg/team = $7,411 ----- 78=2 events, 1=3 events, 14=DCMP, 11=CMP
FIM-MAR Vets ------------------ $3,493,500 --- Avg/team = $7,712 ----- 1=1 district, 415=2 districts, 37=3 districts, 108=CMP, 148=DCMP, 18=Regionals, 6=Inter-District

PNW Rookies ----------------------- $83,925 --- Avg/team = $6,456 ----- 12=2 districts, 1=3 Districts, 5=DCMP, 3=CMP
PNW Vets ------------------------ $1,100,070 --- Avg/team = $7,587 ----- 136=2 districts, 9=3 Districts, 2=1 Regional, 59=DCMP, 32=CMP

NC-PCH-NE-IN-CHS Rookies --- $374,000 ---- Avg/team = $8,698 ------ 43=2 districts, 19=DCMP, 8=CMP
NC-PCH-NE-IN-CHS Vets ----- $3,590,000 ---- Avg/team = $8,215 ------ 9=1 district,391=2 districts, 36=3 districts, 1=4 districts, 205=DCMP, 99=CMP, 13=Regionals, 2=Inter-District


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Here are the revised prices I used:

Registration ------------- Veteran ---- Rookie -- extra Regionals -- 3rd District - Inter-District - District CMP - World CMP

Regional teams -------------- 5000 ------- 6000 ----------- 4000 ------------------------------------------------------- ----- ----- 5000
FIM/MAR teams -------------- 5000 ------- 6000 ----------- 4000 ------------- 500 ---------- 1000 ------------ 4000 ----------- 5000
NE/IN/CHS/PCH/NC teams -- 5000 ------- 6000 ----------- 4000 ------------ 1000 ---------- 1000 ------------ 4000 ----------- 5000
PNW teams ------------------- 6366 ------- 5225 ----------- 4000 ----- ------ 1000 -----------1000 ------------------------------ 5000

[Jon Stratis]

I find it rather interesting that the average cost per team actually goes up for all of the districts compared to regionals (although you do get more matches for that cost)... Which raises the question, should we be looking to optimize for number of matches/events played (which many argue increases competitiveness), or for cost per team (where a lower cost could help recruit and retain more teams per year)?

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by M. Mellott

12:02 - Added to waitlist at Greater Pittsburgh Regional

Really? Two minutes?

This is actually the least surprising thing I have seen year after year. I'm pretty sure by 2018 open capacity for this event pre-registration is going to be single digits.

[KosmicKhaos]

Originally Posted by M. Mellott

12:02 - Added to waitlist at Greater Pittsburgh Regional

Really? Two minutes?

I mean, there were only 24 spots available... seems smaller this year

[M. Mellott]

Originally Posted by M. Mellott

12:02 - Added to waitlist at Greater Pittsburgh Regional

Really? Two minutes?

Originally Posted by KosmicKhaos

I mean, there were only 24 spots available... seems smaller this year

For those interested in signing up for the Greater Pittsburgh Regional and are concerned with going on the waitlist, there is light at the end of the tunnel. I have it from a reliable source over the weekend that the Regional reserved many more than the typical 10 slots for rookies...it may be closer to 20 or 25 slots. I believe they were concerned that they wouldn't have enough in reserve since it had filled up so fast the last several years--I think they may have had issues last year.

[Jimmy Nichols]

Originally Posted by M. Mellott

12:02 - Added to waitlist at Greater Pittsburgh Regional

Really? Two minutes?

Always, you should know by now.

Pittsburgh conflicted with quarter exams for us. Was debating between Central Illinois and Buckeye, so went Central Illinois until we figure it out knowing Buckeye rarely fills.

[M. Mellott]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols

Always, you should know by now.

Yeah, I know Jimmy--it's still annoying. Usually, it's not until 12:04 or 12:05!!

[Tom Ore]

24 Teams from China are registered already, 11 of those are rookies, and it's the middle of the night there.

[Sperkowsky]

Registered for NYC. SBPLI closed too quick and its more expensive to get there for us anyway. This is only half of the slots right? (Sorry wasnt into FRC much at this time last year)

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Tom Ore

24 Teams from China are registered already, 11 of those are rookies, and it's the middle of the night there.

This is awesome.

[Coach Norm]

Originally Posted by Tom Ore

24 Teams from China are registered already, 11 of those are rookies, and it's the middle of the night there.

+1

[Zebra_Fact_Man]

Originally Posted by Tom Ore

24 Teams from China are registered already, 11 of those are rookies, and it's the middle of the night there.

I really thought they'd have had a regional in-country this year, like Australia.

Maybe next season...