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Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!

Its obvious at end of video the robots arms are positioned to carry a flag. Pretty sure the robot will have to transport a flagpole to some point on the tower.
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Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!

So on usfirst.org, the banner they had for Stronghold on their main page had this on it before they edited it.
http://puu.sh/kL76B/4489c4c4ed.jpg

Why was "more" Spelt "m0re"?
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Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!

So my theory is that this year is that FIRST is gonna enforce teams to use vision tracking or cameras. Teams would have to enter the opposing alliance Stronghold to retrieve flags from it however I think there will be some kind of wall preventing humans from seeing the robot inside the stronghold so our robots are gonna need cameras to be controlled and retrieve the flags. As for an end game I think there is gonna be 2 towers on the middle of the field in which teams can rise their flags to gain extra points. That is at least how I imagine the game from the teaser shown.
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So my theory is that this year is that FIRST is gonna enforce teams to use vision tracking or cameras. Teams would have to enter the opposing alliance Stronghold to retrieve flags from it however I think there will be some kind of wall preventing humans from seeing the robot inside the stronghold so our robots are gonna need cameras to be controlled and retrieve the flags.
A robot selfie stick. Problem solved.
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Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!

I've noticed the banner appear on DoubleClick ads while browsing online. Interesting.
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Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!

I think everyone should start working on TreBotchets.
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I think everyone should start working on TreBotchets.
I don't know that launching robots will be a part of the game
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I don't know that launching robots will be a part of the game
But what if it's legal.
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But what if it's legal.
Then the safety award would mean soo much more.

On another note, I really like the idea of incorporating a vision system as a 'requirement'. It seems like FRC is trying to move towards having teams build more than a epic drive base. Last year was all about the super-structure. I would not be surprised if this year involved maybe a smarter autonomous and an important vision system.
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I think everyone should start working on TreBotchets.
don't you mean trebuchets or are we shooting minibots
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I've noticed the banner appear on DoubleClick ads while browsing online. Interesting.
You aren't the only one. I've seen it on 2+ spots per page on occasion.
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You aren't the only one. I've seen it on 2+ spots per page on occasion.
What if (and this is totally crazy) they are designing a mobile game that coincides with the actual FRC competition? It would explain the ads, the style of the video, and FIRST's attempt to have a wider appeal. Just a sort of crazy thought... (PLEASE! I hope I am wrong)
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Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!

From the field map:

Lanes up the left side of the field allow a human player to draw back the tent flaps at mid-field that otherwise prevent drivers from seeing the opposing end of the field. Withdrawing both red and blue curtains for the majority of the match raises the yellow flag and increases co-op points. As long as the flaps stay “closed”, the drivers must rely on hand signals from their human player or cameras mounted to their robot when trying to score in goals at the far end of the field.

Three moveable goals start on the driver’s right on the near side of the field. Lines on the field map show where two of the goals have been dragged to the left side of the field for protection. Note that the human player on right side wall loaded game pieces into one of the goals on it’s way by. North/south lines track game pieces being thrown by a human player toward the relocated goals.

From the flags:

Shapes on the red and blue flags represent round balls (or maybe hex balls) being scored in one of three, three-compartment hexagonal floor goals. Game pieces are red, blue and yellow. Most balls in a goal (somehow) raises a flag of that color – red flag counts red balls in the goal for the red alliance; blue flag counts blue balls in the goal for the blue alliance; yellow flag scores total of all balls in the goal (red, blue and yellow) for both alliances.
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So my theory is that this year is that FIRST is gonna enforce teams to use vision tracking or cameras. Teams would have to enter the opposing alliance Stronghold to retrieve flags from it however I think there will be some kind of wall preventing humans from seeing the robot inside the stronghold so our robots are gonna need cameras to be controlled and retrieve the flags. As for an end game I think there is gonna be 2 towers on the middle of the field in which teams can rise their flags to gain extra points. That is at least how I imagine the game from the teaser shown.
I hope not as that would add yet another technical hurdle too far for less resourced or experienced teams. The stacking plus capping task was too much this year and contributed to a spreading disparity in the ability to teams to contribute to their alliances. Using cameras to drive is similarly difficult.
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By the way, didn't you notice on the field blueprint that there is a tree standing next to a pond in the middle of each zone? Water game!!!
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