Go to Post The closest thing to "Senior Mentor" we have is "Team Grandma". :) - Alan Anderson [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > ChiefDelphi.com Website > Extra Discussion
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-11-2015, 23:48
GeeTwo's Avatar
GeeTwo GeeTwo is offline
Technical Director
AKA: Gus Michel II
FRC #3946 (Tiger Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Rookie Year: 2013
Location: Slidell, LA
Posts: 3,619
GeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond reputeGeeTwo has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: Butterfly Drive

If I were doing grasshopper/butterfly with omni wheels, I would definitely put the solid wheels on the hard, fixed axis which would be better at handling scrub forces, and cantilever/actuate the omnis, which (by design), do not exert much scrub force. I understand the desire to gear the solid wheels lower, but I'd rather make that work by actuating the motors and gearbox and providing some slack in all the wiring than to pull the scrub force through a cantilever.

Edit:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay View Post
Wouldn't this be the best case scenario for this design since most of the force is transferred into the frame via the pneumatic cylinder? Or have I just been working too many night shifts?
Pneumatic cylinders should never be used to transmit significant forces except along the shaft axis. Solid wheels are going to be called upon for scrub (sideways, or into/out of the plane as you've sketched above) forces, especially in pin situations, and also in pushing matches. The pneumatic cylinder is not equipped to handle this force, and the parallel plates of a butterfly module are likely to "parallelogram" under this force. Exactly where this turns ugly requires more info than I have on your drive system, but at some point, you will have problems with the module hitting the side wall, a chain binding, or metal bending beyond its elastic limits.
__________________

If you can't find time to do it right, how are you going to find time to do it over?
If you don't pass it on, it never happened.
Robots are great, but inspiration is the reason we're here.
Friends don't let friends use master links.

Last edited by GeeTwo : 12-11-2015 at 23:59.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 13:55.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi