Universal Spy Hand Signals

[tyler9698]

Our team is thinking about the benefits of making universal signals for the spies. If anyone has any useful spy signals please comment below.

[Anthony Galea]

Just some quick thoughts

Hand to left: move to left
hand to right: move to right
Hands towards driver station: drive back
Hands up: drive forward
Arms to both left and right: You're good

[Zetoid]

Originally Posted by 3175student17

Just some quick thoughts

Hand to left: move to left
hand to right: move to right
Hands towards driver station: drive back
Hands up: drive forward
Arms to both left and right: You're good

I believe we should also include numbers in the secret language. This would be to represent the number of balls in the opposing team's play. By monitoring the number of balls in play your alliance may avoid fouls, or induce fouls on the opposing team.

I believe this could be done by, just by showing the numbers using their hands. However this may not be as affective because, it may interfere with hand movements and I'm not too good at stress counting.

[Matt178]

We have a few members/mentors who know ASL and are thinking of making a universal FIRST Stronghold ASL Dictionary just for this.

[Demonic_]

Originally Posted by Matt178

We have a few members/mentors who know ASL and are thinking of making a universal FIRST Stronghold ASL Dictionary just for this.

I really like this idea! The head mentor for our team had that same thinking. I hope we get a copy.

[Katherine P]

Originally Posted by Matt178

We have a few members/mentors who know ASL and are thinking of making a universal FIRST Stronghold ASL Dictionary just for this.

This dictionary is now mostly complete and can be viewed at this link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

It includes a list of lots of signs (In actual ASL) that will prove to be very useful in communicating across the field.

[Foster]

Originally Posted by Katherine P

This dictionary is now mostly complete and can be viewed at this link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

It includes a list of lots of signs (In actual ASL) that will prove to be very useful in communicating across the field.

Wow, you did a lot of work on this. I'm on the fence. I'm thinking that basing it on ASL is good, since there are lots of people that already know it. It may also be a hidden bonus since there may be audience members that know ASL.

I'm wondering how well people will be able to see the signs. They are behind glass, wearing safety glasses looking down field to the spy about 45' away. Lighting is iffy in lots of venues. Will the hand signs be clearly visible and understandable?

[TJScalzo]

Originally Posted by Katherine P

This dictionary is now mostly complete and can be viewed at this link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

It includes a list of lots of signs (In actual ASL) that will prove to be very useful in communicating across the field.

I'm on the same team as Katherine. We'll be creating a video soon that shows all of the signs together rather than as a bunch of separate ones. Once that's made we'll make sure to post a link in this thread. That way we can get some visual learning started rather than just descriptions.

[CindiCC]

Looking forward to seeing that - our team did driving practice with another team and started to use some hand signals. Worth having a common language.

[IronicDeadBird]

Man I was just planning on ditching the spy box role and having whoever is running spy on our team just give me a thumb up or a thumbs down if things were lined up wrong. This is pretty intense stuff.

[thewolfofbhs]

Originally Posted by Katherine P

This dictionary is now mostly complete and can be viewed at this link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

It includes a list of lots of signs (In actual ASL) that will prove to be very useful in communicating across the field.

I looked at the list, and love the idea... our team was creating a list on our own with some similar ideas.. although we haven't gotten quite as far..

Although to make the defenses easier to understand, we decided using numbers to show where on the outerworks it is. Since we are learning numbers for this, we also thought we could use the numbers to tell the time to the teams if they ask.

Our team's dictionary (although not complete) is here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

[IronicDeadBird]

And thus from regional to regional a dialect of spy box was brought into existence and to this day scholars still have no idea how it got so big.

[Foster]

A little disappointed that this didn't become a unified spy-talk. I thought it had so much possibility.

[Katherine P]

Originally Posted by Katherine P

This dictionary is now mostly complete and can be viewed at this link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

It includes a list of lots of signs (In actual ASL) that will prove to be very useful in communicating across the field.

We have fully completed this and if you would like to take a look at it, just click on the link in the quoted post.

[theCADguy]

Has anyone though about adapting the Open Outcry system that is used on some financial exchanges?

http://www.cmegroup.com/education/op...d-signals.html

It's basically a simple and clear method of nonverbal communication used relay information about extremely time-sensitive financial and commodity trades from across a very noisy trading pit such as NYSE. Since it's so simple and optimized for an environment very similar to an FRC event (where there is a lot of noise and time is of the essence), open outcry could be another useful option for spy communication.