How many balls will you shoot during autonomous?

[pandamonium]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

How would you compare the difficulty of a penalty free 2 ball auto this year to a 7-disc auto in 2013? Keeping in mind that in 2013, there weren't any obstacles to traverse. It was just shoot 3, drive forward and intake, shoot 4.

I think that it really depends on your strategy. The way we are doing it seems about even in complexity to 2013. If you plan on getting the ball from the center line after crossing back into the neutral zone the task becomes more difficult.

[Jared Russell]

Look at how many teams consistently did a "shoot - get discs from midline - shoot" auto in 2013. Maybe 20 in the world?

Look at how many teams consistently did a 2 zone auto (including bump crossing and collecting/kicking balls in the second zone) in 2010. Maybe 10 in the world?

A 2 ball auto in Stronghold basically requires doing both of these tasks sequentially...all in 15 seconds...with a much narrower margin for penalties...into a much smaller goal.

Working 2 ball autonomous modes will exist but they will be more rare than multi-game piece autos in past games. You will never see one robot score three balls in a match in autonomous mode in Stronghold. Jar Nack has spoken.

(Don't agree? Get out there and prove me wrong)

[notmattlythgoe]

Originally Posted by Jared Russell

Look at how many teams consistently did a "shoot - get discs from midline - shoot" auto in 2013. Maybe 20 in the world?

Look at how many teams consistently did a 2 zone auto (including bump crossing and collecting/kicking balls in the second zone) in 2010. Maybe 10 in the world?

A 2 ball auto in Stronghold basically requires doing both of these tasks sequentially...all in 15 seconds...with a much narrower margin for penalties...into a much smaller goal.

Working 2 ball autonomous modes will exist but they will be more rare than multi-game piece autos in past games. You will never see one robot score three balls in a match in autonomous mode in Stronghold. Jar Nack has spoken.

(Don't agree? Get out there and prove me wrong)

Agree, and even looking at 2014 where all you have to do was shoot straight forward. I don't expect to see very many balls scored in auto let alone more than one from a single robot.

[Caleb Sykes]

Originally Posted by Jared Russell

Look at how many teams consistently did a "shoot - get discs from midline - shoot" auto in 2013. Maybe 20 in the world?

Look at how many teams consistently did a 2 zone auto (including bump crossing and collecting/kicking balls in the second zone) in 2010. Maybe 10 in the world?

A 2 ball auto in Stronghold basically requires doing both of these tasks sequentially...all in 15 seconds...with a much narrower margin for penalties...into a much smaller goal.

Working 2 ball autonomous modes will exist but they will be more rare than multi-game piece autos in past games. You will never see one robot score three balls in a match in autonomous mode in Stronghold. Jar Nack has spoken.

(Don't agree? Get out there and prove me wrong)

Jar Nack has been correct before in regards to auto. Wise teams will listen to his wisdom.

[philso]

Originally Posted by Jared Russell

Look at how many teams consistently did a "shoot - get discs from midline - shoot" auto in 2013. Maybe 20 in the world?

Look at how many teams consistently did a 2 zone auto (including bump crossing and collecting/kicking balls in the second zone) in 2010. Maybe 10 in the world?

A 2 ball auto in Stronghold basically requires doing both of these tasks sequentially...all in 15 seconds...with a much narrower margin for penalties...into a much smaller goal.

Working 2 ball autonomous modes will exist but they will be more rare than multi-game piece autos in past games. You will never see one robot score three balls in a match in autonomous mode in Stronghold. Jar Nack has spoken.

(Don't agree? Get out there and prove me wrong)

Agreed. Robots in a temporary (or permanent) Tortuga will probably not be scoring boulders.

[MrJohnston]

Originally Posted by Jared Russell

. You will never see one robot score three balls in a match in autonomous mode in Stronghold. Jar Nack has spoken.

(Don't agree? Get out there and prove me wrong)

Now, this is a challenge worth taking up.... **If** our two-boulder autonomous is up and running cleanly before our second district, I'll have to challenge to programmers to pull off a three-boulder routine... I can visualize our route and see it happening... We we can overcome all the challenges of a two-boulder routine, the only thing we'll have to do is go faster in order to pull off three... If there were 20 seconds, I bet we could do it... 15 will be difficult.

[Poseidon5817]

Originally Posted by Caleb Sykes

"Shoot" and "score" are two very different things. I believe that many teams will shoot 1 ball in auto. Not many of those teams will be scoring though.

The poll was meant to measure how many balls a team plans on scoring. I'm sure a team won't be planning to shoot 2 balls in auto but only score 1 going into their first event, they'll be planning to make both, even though that might not actually happen.

[Dibit1010]

1 in the high goal....hopefully

[Justin Montois]

lol @ more than 2.