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Darksoul chain tool equivalent for #35 chain

Due to the harshness of Stronghold, our team is switching to #35 chain for the drivetrain. We haven't used that since our rookie year, so I don't know how they dealt with it. But I've been spoiled by the Darksoul chain tool for #25 chain, which can make and break chain in a continuous loop. Is there an equivalent for #35 chain? Or is there no choice but to use #35 masterlinks?

If there is no way to remake the chain, won't chain become a consumable? There must be a way to reuse chain. Or is the dark soul chain tool an exception?

If there is no equivalent COTS item, would it be possible to create your own? After all, the dark soul chain tool is only made of very precise pieces of metal with threaded holes; there are no complicated parts/specific materials. Besides, I can see a #35 "dark soul" chain tool being very popular this year, when somebody breaks their #25 chain.
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Re: Darksoul chain tool equivalent for #35 chain

Our students dreaded chain until we picked up one of these. You can get this style from many sources, but it is the best we have found.
Good luck with the swap,
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Re: Darksoul chain tool equivalent for #35 chain

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Our students dreaded chain until we picked up one of these. You can get this style from many sources, but it is the best we have found.
Good luck with the swap,
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We bought one of these a while back but it would always (like 100% of the time) destroy the chain (bend the links beyond repair) before the pins pushed out. Never had any issue with the one we got for #25 chain though, so not sure if we just got a bad one or we're doing something wrong. Regardless the push-out pin on the tool broke a while back so we threw it in a junk drawer.

Thankfully we haven't had the need to use #35 chain for several years so I haven't had to deal with it.

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Re: Darksoul chain tool equivalent for #35 chain

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We bought one of these a while back but it would always destroy the chain (bend the links beyond repair) before the pins pushed out. Never had any issue with the one we got for #25 chain though, so not sure if we just got a bad one or we're doing something wrong.

Thankfully we haven't had the need to use #35 chain for several years so I haven't had to deal with it.
You probably are using it wrong or there is a defect in the one you have.

I would highly recommend the one linked above. Whenever you buy chain breakers never, ever buy a tool designed for multiple sizes because they break so easily and are going for quantity not quality.
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Re: Darksoul chain tool equivalent for #35 chain

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You probably are using it wrong or there is a defect in the one you have.

I would highly recommend the one linked above. Whenever you buy chain breakers never, ever buy a tool designed for multiple sizes because they break so easily and are going for quantity not quality.
What we have looks exactly like what you linked. So I suspect some defect.
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Re: Darksoul chain tool equivalent for #35 chain

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Our students dreaded chain until we picked up one of these. You can get this style from many sources, but it is the best we have found.
Good luck with the swap,
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We bought one of these a while back but it would always (like 100% of the time) destroy the chain (bend the links beyond repair) before the pins pushed out. Never had any issue with the one we got for #25 chain though, so not sure if we just got a bad one or we're doing something wrong. Regardless the push-out pin on the tool broke a while back so we threw it in a junk drawer.

Thankfully we haven't had the need to use #35 chain for several years so I haven't had to deal with it.
I have to second (third?) the suggestion to buy a chain break like this. @Cbale200, most likely yours isn't defective, but rather user error. A chain break like that one is somewhat difficult to get a hang of, and if you don't seat the chain in the grooves properly, it will destroy the link, but once you know how to put the chain in it, you'll never have a trouble breaking chains again. The only unfortunate part about it is since it's designed for go-cart racing, (It is an aluminum block after all) it's impossible to get into tight spaces so for some chain runs you'll have to make the chain first, then walk it onto the sprockets.
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Re: Darksoul chain tool equivalent for #35 chain

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Our students dreaded chain until we picked up one of these. You can get this style from many sources, but it is the best we have found.
Good luck with the swap,
Nate
Yep, I have had no problems with this style of chainbreaker. The one we have has a brand on the front, but is almost identical, so this could be a low-quality version which could explain the breakage that occurred.
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