First seed alliance captain: Low Bar or not?

[Nuwanda]

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace

1918 at FiM Standish-Sterling is low bar capable, if I am reading this post correctly.

Your assumption was accurate. They had a pretty consistent low bar/high goal auton as well.

[Dezion]

NC Guilford County's 1st seed was a Low Bar capable robot, but the first seed's first pick was a non low-bar capable robot. (They go on losing to Alliance #8, three low bar capable robots).

[Lij2015]

Chesapeake: Northern Virginia's #1 seed (and subsequent winner) 2363 was low bar capable.

[BeardyMentor]

Originally Posted by Munchskull

Not surprising. However it will be the tall 2nd pick that will win stronghold.

1257 with 5624 and 1676 (Thanks to our alliance partners!!) won Mount Olive District with all 3 low bar capable

[Captain_Kirch]

The low bar is the easiest obstacle if you fit, and most teams fit. Low bar capable or not #1 robots likely won't use the low bar because they're hitting the defenses their partners cant.

This is further supported by the way these early competition number 1 seeds get the number 1 seed, breaching. Right now, great breacher = high seed. We've yet to see teams that can capture consistently, maybe those teams stick to the low bar, or maybe they do it all. Who knows?

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by Captain_Kirch

The low bar is the easiest obstacle if you fit, and most teams fit. Low bar capable or not #1 robots likely won't use the low bar because they're hitting the defenses their partners cant.

This is further supported by the way these early competition number 1 seeds get the number 1 seed, breaching. Right now, great breacher = high seed. We've yet to see teams that can capture consistently, maybe those teams stick to the low bar, or maybe they do it all. Who knows?

The problem with capture is a HG is 5 or LG is 2 ..... a cross twice is 10 so all top seeds get there by A) more points and B) an easier RP...cycle times are faster on breaching bots than HG shooters that take time to line up shots or have to go all the way to the LG...so in every regional the breechers will for the most part be captains .... and any hybrid breech/HG shooters but they will be mid alliance captains. That leaves out bots that only shoot to be lapped up in alliance selections and "fed" in eliminations. Excellent breech/HG like 179 are so good they will be #1 ...but that is very rare so far. I expect this week3 we'll see another 179-level or two

Glad we are a great breacher low bot that can shoot/feed and scale we guessed right what qualities would work this year. Very glad we can "do it all"except HG so far as it wasn't "needed" much or worth the risk of wasted time on miss..it helps immensely in this years game. we learned a lesson last year we must be able to score ourselves a lot of points no matter what partners we have...seems to work so far. We'll see this week how round two goes. Each year we apply past years learning..hopefully next year they finally listen and finish the bot in week 4 to get practice time in.

[Roborunner230]

At the Waterbury event, most alliance captains, if not all, were lot bar bots. (I don't entirely remember)
That included seeds 1-5.

[The other Gabe]

Originally Posted by jojoguy10

1983 (Skunkworks) is low bar capable and #1 seed here at Auburn Mountainview.

they didnt shoot high goal and were first seed (which speaks to how well they played every other aspect of the game, not that there were a lack of good bots there :v ). the top 4 seeded robots at that event were low bar capable

[tuxzee]

Originally Posted by Kingland093

At Lake superior, I think 4009 is able to but I could be wrong

At Lake Superior, both 4009 and 359 (#1 captain and #1 pick) could go under the low bar; however, neither of us actually did in any of the elim matches. We left that up to the 3rd alliance member, 6175.

[GCarnes]

Team 5150 was 1st seed alliance captain at FIM Kettering #1 as a low bar robot. We were able to breach the defenses every qualification match which is what kept us on top. We had a robot specifically designed and focused around breaching the defenses.

[P.J.]

3604, 1st seed at the Southfield District, was low bar capable.

After looking through the rest of this thread it looks like the only question remaining is whether team 56 (1st seed at Mt. Olive) was low bar capable.

[jwfoss]

FRC558 is low bar capable and was #1 seed at NE Waterbury District

[samefman]

Originally Posted by Bluman56

I made this bold prediction not expecting to be 100% accurate, but with so many events going on this weekend, I am starting to get curious. So far, GTCR and Waterford Event (FIM District) have a low bar capable robot as the first seed alliance captain. Can we keep track of this statistic if anyone else is interested?

I apologize in advance for not being able to give out gift cards for the fastest contributors... Maybe one day

I just came from the week 1 district event at Mount Olive (MAR) and I recall only seeing a handful of tall robots. (Tall meaning that it can't fit under the low bar).
Statistically speaking, if a majority of the robots at a competition can go under the low bar, it's likely that the highest seeded robot will be, too. I don't think that it's this hypothetical teams ability to go under the low bar that makes them the highest seed. I personally see no correlation.

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by P.J.

After looking through the rest of this thread it looks like the only question remaining is whether team 56 (1st seed at Mt. Olive) was low bar capable.

Yes, yes they were.

[Bluman56]

375 at NYC Regional was low bar capable.
1678 at Central Valley was low bar capable.
2056 at GTRE was low bar capable.

I think 3158 at Mexico City was not low bar capable...