Cheesecake robot. How far is too far?

[Lil' Lavery]

Why not borrow a team shirt from the team you drafted and have your back-up driver drive the bot you built for them, as well? The drafted team still get to win, right?

Originally Posted by jwfoss

I would advocate that if you think you have the time and are willing to put the effort into building a second robot at an event for a potential alliance partner, your time would be better spent helping those teams at the event that need it most. Raising the floor will give you more options come alliance selection time, and improve the event for everyone.

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to jwfoss again"

[IronicDeadBird]

If you have the resources for another robot practice bots are always nice.

[CJ_Elliott]

I think conversation comes down to some people think that it would be fine or don't care and some do care. Personally, I think it should be between the teams to decide whether or not to take the cheesecake bot. IMO everyone that isn't those teams should mind their own, if you are against having your team change robots then don't. Simple as that.

[taaha_alidrisi]

Originally Posted by CJ_Elliott

I think conversation comes down to some people think that it would be fine or don't care and some do care. Personally, I think it should be between the teams to decide whether or not to take the cheesecake bot. IMO everyone that isn't those teams should mind their own, if you are against having your team change robots then don't. Simple as that.

But the question comes to fairness as if you were competing in a regional elimination rounds and the other alliance you're competing with has a cheesecake robot for their 3rd robot member... Hence, shouldn't you care if it affects you closely (and it does as the main post by 3360 goes to the Montreal Regional like the team I'm in 3386).

[marshall]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Why not borrow a team shirt from the team you drafted and have your back-up driver drive the bot you built for them, as well? The drafted team still get to win, right?

A couple of years ago we witnessed a team do exactly this but with a human player instead of a driver. We lost a regional because of it. More specifically, the other alliance gained a huge advantage since they had two human players who could load their own robot.

A couple of our students were quite mad/frustrated with me that I would not contest it but winning or replaying matches because the other side broke the rules is not how we want to win. From our reading that year, the rules actually prohibited this and have since. Notice that I said "the rules" and not the "spirit of the rules" or "spirit of FIRST".

But hey, what do I know about cheesecaking?

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by marshall

But hey, what do I know about cheesecaking?

I have interpreted this line (and others like it) to implicitly mean "we've been cheesecaked, we liked it, therefor it MUST be good and ALL teams should like it." Can you tell me if I have interpreted that incorrectly? If so, can you clarify what you mean by it?

[marshall]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

I have interpreted this line (and others like it) to implicitly mean "we've been cheesecaked, we liked it, therefor it MUST be good and ALL teams should like it." Can you tell me if I have interpreted that incorrectly? If so, can you clarify what you mean by it?

I meant that I had derailed the thread slightly and was trying to put the train back on track but you can take my post however you'd like to.