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TapeMeasure Climber Dropping after Match End

We are attempting a tape measure climber system for our regional this week. We are essentially using two 775 pro motors to extend and retract the tape measure. (we are using the tape measure itself to climb).

One major problem we are having is staying up, after the match ends and the power is cut. The weight is too much for the 775 pros and the gearing to hold with no power, and the bot quickly slides back down. What are possible solutions to remedy this?

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Re: TapeMeasure Climber Dropping after Match End

Passive hooks roughly on where your robot wants to stop.
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Re: TapeMeasure Climber Dropping after Match End

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Passive hooks roughly on where your robot wants to stop.
Could you elaborate please. Thanks!

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Re: TapeMeasure Climber Dropping after Match End

Could you post pictures of the climber? It could be an easy fix.
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Re: TapeMeasure Climber Dropping after Match End

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Could you post pictures of the climber? It could be an easy fix.
I am at home, but I just texted some guys still at the shop to send some pics, i'll post as soon as I get them. But to describe, the tape is rolled onto a wheel (essentially how it is in the inside of a normal tape measure), but we have two 775 pros geared together to roll that wheel in and out so the tape is extended and retracted. The tape is held onto the wheel by a bunch of 3d printed rollers on the outside, applying constant pressure, and guiding the tape in a straight line.
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Re: TapeMeasure Climber Dropping after Match End

i secound the ratcheting mechanism, we have ours attached to a servo, that locks it in.
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i secound the ratcheting mechanism, we have ours attached to a servo, that locks it in.
What material are you using as the ratchet (is that what its called?...)
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What material are you using as the ratchet (is that what its called?...)
Usually teams cut off half of a ratchet wrench.
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Usually teams cut off half of a ratchet wrench.
Usually tools are not left in the robot on purpose
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Usually tools are not left in the robot on purpose
And when they are, you either find a random wrench on the field.... or very baaaad things happen.
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And when they are, you either find a random wrench on the field.... or very baaaad things happen.
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Re: TapeMeasure Climber Dropping after Match End

A simple way to eliminate back drive would be to toss a worm gear (looks like twisty pasta) in the gearbox.
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What material are you using as the ratchet (is that what its called?...)
We had these solid steel ring hanging around that we cut off our gearboxes every year. We machined ratcheting slots into this and attached it directly onto the shaft In which the winch pullies are on. Then we attached a servo to a piece of metal so that when the winch is pulling down the ratchet rides over the servo but when it goes up just a second the ratchet locks in. The spring is simply to prevent the robot from falling if power is cut to the servo for any reason specifically the end of the match and we didn't fully climb the spring overrides the servo and locks the ratchet
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Re: TapeMeasure Climber Dropping after Match End

If you would like some help with a pneumatic disc brake, our team used one to stop our lift from backdriving last year, and therefore I have a fairly good understanding of how it works.
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Could you post pictures of the climber? It could be an easy fix.
Here are some pics: http://imgur.com/a/91JcU
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