Texas UIL State Championship Qualification Information

[AllenGregoryIV]

Qualification Information for the Texas UIL State Championship has been posted on their website.

http://firstintexas.org/uil/qualification/

Looks like round up will only have 10 spots for teams that have any students who aren't enrolled in a UIL school. I'm interested to see how they go about choosing those teams.

[lynca]

Has anyone calculated the Texas rankings ?

[ahartnet]

I'm hoping someone will,but I'll have time tomorrow to do it if it's not done yet.

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by lynca

Has anyone calculated the Texas rankings ?

I *think* 118, 148, and 3310 have "perfect event scores" on average in texas (# 1seed, win playoffs). They both won WFFA so they edge us out there, and then when you go down the tiebreakers all the way to "highest match score" 118 beats out 148.

[jee7s]

Originally Posted by JohnSchneider

I *think* 118, 148, and 3310 have "perfect event scores" on average in texas (# 1seed, win playoffs). They both won WFFA so they edge us out there, and then when you go down the tiebreakers all the way to "highest match score" 118 beats out 148.

Please note two things. From the admin manual and the announcement, points are only awarded for Team awards, so WFFA and Deans List don't add 5 points. From the FIRST in Texas announcement, note that the event scores are averaged. That means 148 isn't quite "perfect" since they were not the 1 seed at the end of qualifications in Dallas.

For the record, thebluealliance API feature that calculates District Points for an event works for regionals too.

[s1900ahon]

Originally Posted by jee7s

For the record, thebluealliance API feature that calculates District Points for an event works for regionals too.

The API from TBA doesn't seem to factor in Team Age per Admin Manual section 7.4.1.5.

For example, sending a request for Utah, you'll see this in the middle of the output:

"frc5933": {
      "alliance_points": 11,
      "total": 53,
      "award_points": 8,
      "elim_points": 20,
      "qual_points": 14
    },

But they're rookies and are supposed to get 10 points in their rookie year. I probably missed something obvious.

[Michael Blake]

3481 is a diverse team with a good amount of non-UIL students (private school and home schooled) in addition to our Northside ISD UIL-eligible students.

I guess we're NOT eligible for the potential UIL recognition because we're a _mixed-bag_.

AND I guess we're relegated to one of the ten "wait-list" openings.

Am I the only one who thinks this sucks?

A student is a student--period.

What we're doing here in Texas competition robotics is creating a class-system of first-class teams and second-class teams.

HOW that's _better_ is beyond my ability to comprehend and either my brain is much smaller than the big-brains that put this together or _maybe_ those who did this may be blinded by the supposed BIG team numbers growth this will supposedly spur, and that may happen, but _excluding_ ANY Texas FIRST student from _anything_ as if they're second-class is NOT something we should be doing.

--Michael Blake

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by s1900ahon

But they're rookies and are supposed to get 10 points in their rookie year. I probably missed something obvious.

calculating total points is different from event points - every team's event point calculation is identical, the rookie bonus is added on at the very end. Otherwise district calculations would give rookies the bonus twice, once for each event.

[itsjustmrb]

Here is what I came up with the data from thebluealliance, this is not an official document of any kind.

Attachment 20599

The team average was derived from the first 2 Texas events that the teams attended.

[Drakxii]

s1900ahon, team Age is added to overall score not per event.

I am unsure if teams at Texas events get 5 points for a Chairman's/EI/RAS and then bonus points on top of that or just the bonus points. Also I don't know if winning EI or Chairman's twice gives double points, but I gave 2881 the extra points anyways.

Here is the list by the UIL rules, per the assumptions above. Note, this list doesn't take into account tiebreakers or eligibility. Also I may have missed awards outside of Texas.

Rank 	Team 	Points
1	 	118  		73.0
1	 	3310		73.0
3	 	148 		72.0
4	 	4587		71.0
5	 	4063		64.0
6	 	1296		60.0
6	 	2468		60.0
8	 	5431		58.5
9	 	231  		57.0
10	 	3005		56.5
11	 	1477		53.5
11	 	2848		53.5
13	 	5726		52.0
14	 	624 		51.5
15	 	6171		50.0
16	 	57   		46.0
16	 	3847		46.0
18	 	6133		45.5
19	 	5775		44.0
20	 	5572		43.0
21	 	2158		42.3
22	 	2881		42.0
22		5057		42.0
24	 	5829		39.0
25	 	4301		38.0
26	 	5417		37.5
27	 	6144		36.0
28	 	3679		35.0
28	 	5986		35.0
30	 	3481		33.5
30	 	3802		33.5
32	 	2583		32.0
33	 	2805		30.0
34	 	5892		29.0
35	 	5414		28.5
36	 	3366		28.0
37	 	2789		27.0
37	 	3743		27.0
39	 	3999		26.5
39	 	4639		26.5
41	 	3355		26.0
41	 	4192		26.0
41	 	4364		26.0
41	 	5411		26.0
45	 	418 		25.5
46	 	4694		25.0
46	 	5242		25.0
48	 	2587		24.0
48	 	2882		24.0
48	 	3676		24.0
48	 	5981		24.0
48	 	6196		24.0
53	 	3735		23.3
54	 	6155		23.0
55	 	5754		22.0
55	 	6111 		22.0
55	 	6126		22.0
55	 	6235		22.0
59	 	5427		21.0
59	 	5771		21.0
59		5866		21.0
59		5923		21.0
59		6172		21.0
64		5416		20.0
64		5639		20.0
64		6051		20.0
67		704 		19.0
67		1745		19.0
67		5888		19.0
70		5894		18.0
71		647 		17.0
71		5682		17.0
71		5739		17.0
71		5908		17.0
71		5960		17.0
76		457 		16.0
76		1255		16.0
76		4076		16.0
76		6180		16.0
80		3741		15.0
81		2613		14.0
81		2969		14.0
81		3103		14.0
81		5503		14.0
81		5681		14.0
86		4332		13.0
86		5103		13.0
88		1642		12.0
88		2721		12.0
88		2950		12.0
88		3545		12.0
88		4295		12.0
88		4298		12.0
88		4610		12.0
88		4734		12.0
88		5052		12.0
97		3305		11.0
97		3345		11.0
97		3561		11.0
97		4155		11.0
97		5212		11.0
102		3335		10.5
102		4300		10.5
104		3029		10.0
104		3035		10.0
104		3240		10.0
104		5241		10.0
108		441		9.0
108		653		9.0
108		3043		9.0
108		3728		9.0
108		5070		9.0
108		5261		9.0
114		2582		8.0
114		3350		8.0
114		4219		8.0
114		4328		8.0
114		4570		8.0
114		5566		8.0
120		4641		7.5
121		2585		7.0
121		3282		7.0
121		3370		7.0
121		4696		7.0
125		1817		6.5
126		2897		6.0
126		3700		6.0
126		4378		6.0
126		4412		6.0
126		4799		6.0
126		4852		6.0
132		2966		5.0
132		3997		5.0
132		4717		5.0
132		5047		5.0
136		3037		4.0
136		3417		4.0
136		3834		4.0
136		4206		4.0
140		4597		3.0

[mAYple]

Originally Posted by Drakxii

s1900ahon, team Age is added to overall score not per event.

I am unsure if teams at Texas events get 5 points for a Chairman's/EI/RAS and then bonus points on top of that or just the bonus points. Also I don't know if winning EI or Chairman's twice gives double points, but I gave 2881 the extra points anyways.

Here is the list by the UIL rules, per the assumptions above. Note, this list doesn't take into account tiebreakers or eligibility. Also I may have missed awards outside of Texas.

Rank 	Team 	Points
1	 	118  		73.0
1	 	3310		73.0
3	 	148 		72.0
4	 	4587		71.0
5	 	4063		64.0
6	 	1296		60.0
6	 	2468		60.0
8	 	5431		58.5
9	 	231  		57.0
10	 	3005		56.5
11	 	1477		53.5
11	 	2848		53.5
13	 	5726		52.0
14	 	624 		51.5
15	 	6171		50.0
16	 	57   		46.0
16	 	3847		46.0
18	 	6133		45.5
19	 	5775		44.0
20	 	5572		43.0
21	 	2158		42.3
22	 	2881		42.0
22		5057		42.0
24	 	5829		39.0
25	 	4301		38.0
26	 	5417		37.5
27	 	6144		36.0
28	 	3679		35.0
28	 	5986		35.0
30	 	3481		33.5
30	 	3802		33.5
32	 	2583		32.0
33	 	2805		30.0
34	 	5892		29.0
35	 	5414		28.5
36	 	3366		28.0
37	 	2789		27.0
37	 	3743		27.0
39	 	3999		26.5
39	 	4639		26.5
41	 	3355		26.0
41	 	4192		26.0
41	 	4364		26.0
41	 	5411		26.0
45	 	418 		25.5
46	 	4694		25.0
46	 	5242		25.0
48	 	2587		24.0
48	 	2882		24.0
48	 	3676		24.0
48	 	5981		24.0
48	 	6196		24.0
53	 	3735		23.3
54	 	6155		23.0
55	 	5754		22.0
55	 	6111 		22.0
55	 	6126		22.0
55	 	6235		22.0
59	 	5427		21.0
59	 	5771		21.0
59		5866		21.0
59		5923		21.0
59		6172		21.0
64		5416		20.0
64		5639		20.0
64		6051		20.0
67		704 		19.0
67		1745		19.0
67		5888		19.0
70		5894		18.0
71		647 		17.0
71		5682		17.0
71		5739		17.0
71		5908		17.0
71		5960		17.0
76		457 		16.0
76		1255		16.0
76		4076		16.0
76		6180		16.0
80		3741		15.0
81		2613		14.0
81		2969		14.0
81		3103		14.0
81		5503		14.0
81		5681		14.0
86		4332		13.0
86		5103		13.0
88		1642		12.0
88		2721		12.0
88		2950		12.0
88		3545		12.0
88		4295		12.0
88		4298		12.0
88		4610		12.0
88		4734		12.0
88		5052		12.0
97		3305		11.0
97		3345		11.0
97		3561		11.0
97		4155		11.0
97		5212		11.0
102		3335		10.5
102		4300		10.5
104		3029		10.0
104		3035		10.0
104		3240		10.0
104		5241		10.0
108		441		9.0
108		653		9.0
108		3043		9.0
108		3728		9.0
108		5070		9.0
108		5261		9.0
114		2582		8.0
114		3350		8.0
114		4219		8.0
114		4328		8.0
114		4570		8.0
114		5566		8.0
120		4641		7.5
121		2585		7.0
121		3282		7.0
121		3370		7.0
121		4696		7.0
125		1817		6.5
126		2897		6.0
126		3700		6.0
126		4378		6.0
126		4412		6.0
126		4799		6.0
126		4852		6.0
132		2966		5.0
132		3997		5.0
132		4717		5.0
132		5047		5.0
136		3037		4.0
136		3417		4.0
136		3834		4.0
136		4206		4.0
140		4597		3.0

Whoa, cool to see us so high up!

[Michael Blake]

Originally Posted by itsjustmrb

Here is what I came up with the data from thebluealliance, this is not an official document of any kind.

You can remove 3481 from the listing as per...

"32 UIL eligible FIRST Robotics Competition teams will qualify based on their performance at all their FIRST Regional competitions in Texas (See Qualification section below). An additional 10 spots will be reserved and allocated by the event planning committee. In total, 42 FIRST Robotics Competition teams will compete at this event."

Since we're NOT "UIL eligible" because of our mixed-bag of public-private-home school students we can only hope and pray we get one of those coveted 10 spots reserved for the newly created structure of second-class student teams.

--Michael Blake

[AllenGregoryIV]

I think it would be reasonable for us to collect the list of teams who have any non-UIL students on them.

I know 3847, 3481, 5829, & 3103 all have non-UIL students, which other teams fall into this category?

[Michael Blake]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

I think it would be reasonable for us to collect the list of teams who have any non-UIL students on them.

I know 3847, 3481, 5829, & 3103 all have non-UIL students, which other teams fall into this category?

Add 3997 Screaming Chickens here in San Antonio.

--Michael Blake

[Cash4587]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

I think it would be reasonable for us to collect the list of teams who have any non-UIL students on them.

I know 3847, 3481, 5829, & 3103 all have non-UIL students, which other teams fall into this category?

4587 is not a "UIL Team" if the requirements are kept at this. We have a few home schooled students that put us into this category. I really dislike their definition of a UIL eligible team.