Dropshots Fired!

[CTbiker105]

Originally Posted by Max Boord

The Arsenal has fired back!

SHOTS SHOOTERED.

[Oromus]

Now that 254 and 118 (see above) has shown theirs, this means there's at least two teams in Newton that has a two boulder auto that crosses a defense that's not the low bar. If/when these two teams play together, it will be ridiculous.

[MaGiC_PiKaChU]

Originally Posted by Max Boord

The Arsenal has fired back!

Oh god, put 254 and 118 along with an other robot that gets one ball in, and that's 80 points straight up after autonomous, and tower down to 5 health

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU

Oh god, put 254 and 118 along with an other robot that gets one ball in, and that's 80 points straight up after autonomous, and tower down to 6 health

If Champs tower strength is 10, then 10-2-2-1 = 5 strength. Which is absolutely insane.

[M217]

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU

Oh god, put 254 and 118 along with an other robot that gets one ball in, and that's 80 points straight up after autonomous, and tower down to 6 health

Down to 5, right? If 254 gets 2 shots in, 118 gets 2 shots in, and robot 3 gets a shot in, then the 10 starting health drops to 5.

[Jared Russell]

Originally Posted by JesseK

If he says it doesn't cross, then I believe it doesn't cross. Normally I'm right there with ya if it were anyone other than the Poofs.

Skepticism is healthy when it comes to robot videos! Until someone does this in a qualification or elimination match, it hasn't happened as far as I am concerned. I am confident in the legality and reliability of our class B/D 2-ball on our practice field, but I'm just a guy on a message board.

The ball not being on the line was an oversight on our part. I double checked all the other videos of this and (of course, ugh) we used the only take where the ball was slightly off (you get sloppy after running a few dozen times). Besides, if we were intentionally pulling a fast one on you, we would have filmed the video from 6 inches off the ground.

[Greg Needel]

Guess what, even if you do end up crossing the line it is a 5pt penalty and the ball is worth 10pts in the goal. The tower strength drop + net 5pts + balls on your side of the field in auton is worth the risk.


I just believe that the 2nd ball wont be there for them in elims as it is even easier to defend than the one through the low bar.


@254 & @118
Great job guys! Looking forward to seeing you on Einstein. (hopefully from the other side of the field and not from the stands).

[connor.worley]

Originally Posted by Greg Needel

Guess what, even if you do end up crossing the line it is a 5pt penalty and the ball is worth 10pts in the goal. The tower strength drop + net 5pts + balls on your side of the field in auton is worth the risk.

Until you get predictably yellow carded. Pretty sure 254 is legal though.

[CJ_Elliott]

Originally Posted by Jared Russell

Besides, if we were intentionally pulling a fast one on you, we would have filmed the video from 6 inches off the ground.

Its alright Jared. I see you. great job on the 2 ball

[SM987]

If we meet, we'll also be cheering for the rock wall.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by AlexanderTheOK

While I do hope this works out for them at champs, I have to agree that based on this video, it is doubtful this particular routine would actually get the ball in a legal starting position. It seems that the bot just barely doesnt cross the line, but the ball also seems to be 2 inches closer

I'm not going to claim to know 254's intake geometry, but from the angle of the camera, 2 inches farther and it wouldn't get a grip on that ball.

Of course, I imagine this isn't the final iteration either.

I just find it hard to believe that the Cheesy Poofs would overlook these details. I think it's much more likely that the camera view is misleading. After all, if these oversights were easy enough for armchair roboticists to point out after watching a 10 second YouTube video, surely someone on 254 would have noticed the issue first?

254 knows what they're doing. If you don't believe their auto is legit and think it was sloppy or not accurate, it's your loss. They aren't cheating, and they certainly aren't making videos of illegal autonomous modes to intimidate people.

[MooreteP]

Originally Posted by JesseK

The 2nd ball wasn't centered on the tape. And if it were, the intake appears to come down over the apex of the 2nd ball, meaning it broke the plane of the center tape. Am I seeing that right?

Yep......

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

Yep......

Con's of living in California

• Sometimes the second ball in your Class D, 2 Ball auto mode gets rolled off the center line just a bit by the wind rushing through your outdoor practice field.

Pro's of living in California

• Literally everything else.

[Thad House]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

Con's of living in California

• Sometimes the second ball in your Class D, 2 Ball auto mode gets rolled off the center line just a bit by the wind rushing through your outdoor practice field.

Pro's of living in California

• Literally everything else.

Probably the reason I'm moving there this June!

[billbo911]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

Pro's of living in California

• Literally everything else.

It's the weather, always the weather!