FRC rules around seating need to change.

[FarmerJohn]

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky

After volunteering for 4 days straight doing field reset our field (Newton) was not chosen to reset Einstein. It was disappointing but, we got to watch great finals matches and I proceeded after cleaning up the field a bit to find Einstein seating. Being I only needed 2 seats one for my mom and one for me I figured this should not be too big of a problem. I found 2 of the best seats that were not going to be reserved for teams on Einstein and sat in one knowing the rules well I did not put anything there to reserve the seat and I proceeded to text my mom to come by. However, right then I got stormed by a team whose seats I apparently "Stole." For reference this team was taking up 6 rows of seating in the lower level of the dome with many many empty seats. I explained calmly that the seats were empty allowing me to sit in them which they did not take kindly to. I was screamed at, called names, and felt physically in danger when a student jumped over a seat to sit next to me. Taking what I explained to hopefully be my mom's seat. I ended up leaving the seats in favor of worse ones next to a team that would not irritate me for the entire night. Worse seat better people.

I'm going to be skeptical here. I don't think this is an accurate representation of events. A lot of this seems exaggerated. I'm not saying you're lying, and you do bring up a legitimate concern, but I highly doubt that you were screamed at, called names, and physically endangered.

Here's what I think most likely happened: You took some convenient seats that belonged to some scouts - probably had some supplies around the seats, but nobody in them directly - and the team saw you. They then said something along the lines of "Hey, we were sitting here" and proceeded to sit around you, not doing anything to kick you out of your seat. You got mad you couldn't get the seats you wanted (and the seat you were saving, even though you're complaining about saving seats?) and decided to post about it on chief.

This thread has the right idea, but I don't think things happened the way you claim they did, and I don't think this is as big of a problem as you claim.

[Sperkowsky]

Originally Posted by FarmerJohn

I'm going to be skeptical here. I don't think this is an accurate representation of events. A lot of this seems exaggerated. I'm not saying you're lying, and you do bring up a legitimate concern, but I highly doubt that you were screamed at, called names, and physically endangered.

Here's what I think most likely happened: You took some convenient seats that belonged to some scouts - probably had some supplies around the seats, but nobody in them directly - and the team saw you. They then said something along the lines of "Hey, we were sitting here" and proceeded to sit around you, not doing anything to kick you out of your seat. You got mad you couldn't get the seats you wanted (and the seat you were saving, even though you're complaining about saving seats?) and decided to post about it on chief.

This thread has the right idea, but I don't think things happened the way you claim they did, and I don't think this is as big of a problem as you claim.

Who are you to discredit me?
What do I gain in exaggerating these events?
Were you there?

I will not justify myself as I do not have to.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by FarmerJohn

I'm going to be skeptical here. I don't think this is an accurate representation of events. A lot of this seems exaggerated. I'm not saying you're lying, and you do bring up a legitimate concern, but I highly doubt that you were screamed at, called names, and physically endangered.

Here's what I think most likely happened: You took some convenient seats that belonged to some scouts - probably had some supplies around the seats, but nobody in them directly - and the team saw you. They then said something along the lines of "Hey, we were sitting here" and proceeded to sit around you, not doing anything to kick you out of your seat. You got mad you couldn't get the seats you wanted (and the seat you were saving, even though you're complaining about saving seats?) and decided to post about it on chief.

This thread has the right idea, but I don't think things happened the way you claim they did, and I don't think this is as big of a problem as you claim.

"I think your story sounds ridiculous, so you must be completely lying about what happened"

Even if he embellished a little bit, this isn't exactly an out of the blue occurrence at the Championship, and I would think the dozens of posters replying in agreement would reinforce this. I certainly don't think that the OP was claiming he was kicked out and screamed at when actually nobody engaged him at all.

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by FarmerJohn

I'm going to be skeptical here. I don't think this is an accurate representation of events. A lot of this seems exaggerated. I'm not saying you're lying, and you do bring up a legitimate concern, but I highly doubt that you were screamed at, called names, and physically endangered.

Here's what I think most likely happened: You took some convenient seats that belonged to some scouts - probably had some supplies around the seats, but nobody in them directly - and the team saw you. They then said something along the lines of "Hey, we were sitting here" and proceeded to sit around you, not doing anything to kick you out of your seat. You got mad you couldn't get the seats you wanted (and the seat you were saving, even though you're complaining about saving seats?) and decided to post about it on chief.

This thread has the right idea, but I don't think things happened the way you claim they did, and I don't think this is as big of a problem as you claim.

I saw some team mom go full starfish, laying out over rows of seats, while she start speaking in tongues trying to save seats at championships.

I will believe almost anything.

[s_forbes]

Originally Posted by PayneTrain

I saw some team mom go full starfish, laying out over rows of seats, while she start speaking in tongues trying to save seats at championships.

Of all the stories I've read online, this sounds like the truest.

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by FarmerJohn

I'm going to be skeptical here. I don't think this is an accurate representation of events. A lot of this seems exaggerated. I'm not saying you're lying, and you do bring up a legitimate concern, but I highly doubt that you were screamed at, called names, and physically endangered.

Here's what I think most likely happened: You took some convenient seats that belonged to some scouts - probably had some supplies around the seats, but nobody in them directly - and the team saw you. They then said something along the lines of "Hey, we were sitting here" and proceeded to sit around you, not doing anything to kick you out of your seat. You got mad you couldn't get the seats you wanted (and the seat you were saving, even though you're complaining about saving seats?) and decided to post about it on chief.

This thread has the right idea, but I don't think things happened the way you claim they did, and I don't think this is as big of a problem as you claim.

You should be glad I have a policy of not giving out red dots.

[Foster]

Originally Posted by IndySam

You should be glad I have a policy of not giving out red dots.

So sorry, I do have a policy for times like this... If you are saving bulk seats, let the random few sit in them.

[dirtbikerxz]

While I would really like to see some sort of system in place, that is "fair" to assign seating, BUT I honestly can't think of a single way that this would work.

At this point, all I care about is that my team's 4-6 scouters get decent seats... I don't think it will be too hard for regionals to "rope" off an area, saying it's for scouters only, and to sit there you need to have one of your team's limited (i dont know how many there should be) "scouting buttons/badges".

[dirtbikerxz]

I don't know if other regionals do this, but Lone Star has "spectator" seating. Essentially, if your team is on the field right now, you are allowed to sit there, and get up as soon as the match is done. At lone star at least, I believe that most people respect these rules, and it works out fine. I personally also like the idea of seating for scouters. A possible system might entitle: when you check in on thursday (or maybe earlier) you need to declare how many scouting seats your team needs, max of 6. Use some sort of randomizing thing, and assign seats for scouters randomly (teams are together ofcourse). Then tape reserved signs on those seats (with the assigned team number) so that there will be no fighting within that area. After that, its up to the non scouters in the team to find their own seats.

If we want to push this idea further, make some "scouting team" buttons (like drive team buttons" and you can only sit in the scouting seat if you have the right team badge......

Before people say scouting buttons are stupid (I don't actually know if people will say that ) just remember, scouting is just as important as the drive team.