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Watch the ramparts!

Throughout the match the ramparts get breached but near the end of the match the light go back on, as if they had only been crossed once.

I know that nothing can change now but I was just shocked that the system even allows the lights to go back on after they had been turned off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UQk...RmsYG&index=19
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Re: Watch the ramparts!

Since the lights can take a while to turn off sometimes, I think they might be manually controlled. Maybe someone accidentally hit the button and turned them back on? I'm not sure how they work, but that's the best I can think of. At about 1:38 in the video, the blue rough terrain is pushed out of its platform. Maybe that had something to do with it?
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Re: Watch the ramparts!

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Throughout the match the ramparts get breached but near the end of the match the light go back on, as if they had only been crossed once.

I know that nothing can change now but I was just shocked that the system even allows the lights to go back on after they had been turned off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UQk...RmsYG&index=19
Actually... They WERE only CROSSED once.

Read the full definition of crossing; there are three elements, and one of the three was, in fact, violated on the second crossing attempt. That should have been a wave-off by the refs, I think... but the refs at CMP weren't very good at signaling to each other so the teams could see from the stands.

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Since the lights can take a while to turn off sometimes, I think they might be manually controlled. Maybe someone accidentally hit the button and turned them back on? I'm not sure how they work, but that's the best I can think of. At about 1:38 in the video, the blue rough terrain is pushed out of its platform. Maybe that had something to do with it?
They are manually controlled, in the sense that the refs have to touch their tablets to record crossings, and recording a crossing controls the lights. Removing a crossing has to be a deliberate act, as it requires two separate button pushes in two different areas of the screen. I would say that that particular crossing was deliberately removed--as for why, see above.

The rough terrain would have nothing to do with that particular incident.
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Actually... They WERE only CROSSED once.

Read the full definition of crossing; there are three elements, and one of the three was, in fact, violated on the second crossing attempt. That should have been a wave-off by the refs, I think... but the refs at CMP weren't very good at signaling to each other so the teams could see from the stands.
What was the violation? I couldn't catch it. Seemed just fine to me.
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Re: Watch the ramparts!

I assume (and hope) this match was replayed, right? If they replayed a match when there was no live scoring, they have to replay a match which essentially had the wrong live score.
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What was the violation? I couldn't catch it. Seemed just fine to me.
Did you read the rules again? They require the bumpers of the robot to pass fully between the shields.
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Re: Watch the ramparts!

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Actually... They WERE only CROSSED once.

Read the full definition of crossing; there are three elements, and one of the three was, in fact, violated on the second crossing attempt. That should have been a wave-off by the refs, I think... but the refs at CMP weren't very good at signaling to each other so the teams could see from the stands.
If you watch, the "foul" ref WAS waving the crossing attempt off and then was talking to the "crossing" ref on the radio. Looks like the conversation went back and forth a few times and then the crossing was removed.
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