Ontario Moving to District Model in 2017

[Mike Schreiber]

Originally Posted by first3234

If so come to the west Michigan district what FIM considers there premiere district of all of FIM

Citation needed.

[Roboshant]

Originally Posted by first3234

If so come to the west Michigan district what FIM considers there premiere district of all of FIM

Need a citation. I would argue that Waterford and Troy would be better contenders for the premier district. Anyways 1114 already prototypes in Troy

Originally Posted by Briansmithtown

Also it seems they have plans of going to troy.

^This might actually become reality.

[first3234]

Originally Posted by Roboshant

Need a citation. I would argue that Waterford and Troy would be better contenders for the premier district. Anyways 1114 already prototypes in Troy



^This might actually become reality.

Yes they attract a lot of competitive teams but west michigan(gvsu event) it has been around since 2003 and has been held every year since then Waterford started in 201 and troy since 2009 I think it's save to say that west Michigan is the premiere district of "FIM"

[cad321]

What I want to know is if a team competes in their 2 district events (and district champs if applicable) could an ontario team go and compete at a regional (not district event) elsewhere. In the FAQ sent out, they said you can't ignore the district model and go off to regionals instead. But if we competed in our district events, could it be allowed?

[Leila Silver]

Originally Posted by cad321

What I want to know is if a team competes in their 2 district events (and district champs if applicable) could an ontario team go and compete at a regional (not district event) elsewhere. In the Q&A sent out, they said you can't ignore the district model and go off to regionals instead. But if we competed in our district events, could it be allowed?

Under the district model, you can compete in outside regionals.

[Sperkowsky]

Originally Posted by cad321

What I want to know is if a team competes in their 2 district events (and district champs if applicable) could an ontario team go and compete at a regional (not district event) elsewhere. In the Q&A sent out, they said you can't ignore the district model and go off to regionals instead. But if we competed in our district events, could it be allowed?

District teams can do as many regional events as they want but they can not sign up for the events until they already signed up for their two district events. Its somewhat common for teams to do a single travel regional along with their 2 district events and DCMP.

The closest regionals for Ontario teams are going to be Ohio and NY events. There is also most likely still going to be a Montreal regional.

[GreyingJay]

Originally Posted by cad321

What I want to know is if a team competes in their 2 district events (and district champs if applicable) could an ontario team go and compete at a regional (not district event) elsewhere. In the FAQ sent out, they said you can't ignore the district model and go off to regionals instead. But if we competed in our district events, could it be allowed?

My read of the FAQ is yes, after you've done the two district events, you can go to a regional.

From Q14: "Ontario teams will be allowed to register in a Regional event after registering for their initial 2 District events first if they choose."

[Knufire]

Are Canadian secondary schools generally smaller than American high schools? Interesting that all of the district venues are colleges or universities.

[cad321]

Originally Posted by Knufire

Are Canadian secondary schools generally smaller than American high schools? Interesting that all of the district venues are colleges or universities.

Here in the region I'm in (halton region, just a little west of Toronto) we only have one school that could host such an event comfortably. The rest are too small IMO. The local colleges and universities offer a much more comfortable venue.

[mman1506]

Originally Posted by Knufire

Are Canadian secondary schools generally smaller than American high schools? Interesting that all of the district venues are colleges or universities.

Yup, In the GTA at least if your school has more than one gymnasium or a pool it is considered to be a huge school. Most public schools aren't setup to handle a sports event attended by more than a handful of people. IRI's venue was the biggest high school I had ever seen by far.

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by mman1506

Yup, In the GTA at least if your school has more than one gymnasium or a pool it is considered to be a huge school. Most public schools aren't setup to handle a sports event attended by more than a handful of people. IRI's venue was the biggest high school I had ever seen by far.

In Indiana basketball is the high school sport. We have the majority of the largest gyms in the country (seating wise.) Also large indoor facilities do to weather.

If you want to see a big school, drive on down to Warren Central, south of Lawrence North, where we have more that a million square feet under roof.

[Sperkowsky]

Originally Posted by IndySam

In Indiana basketball is the high school sport. We have the majority of the largest gyms in the country (seating wise.) Also large indoor facilities do to weather.

If you want to see a big school, drive on down to Warren Central, south of Lawrence North, where we have more that a million square feet under roof.

If you want to see a big school go look at team 5417's school. Its a short drive down to Allen Texas but that Football stadium is probably bigger then most of our team's schools.

http://www.pogueconstruction.com/wp-...-Stadium-1.jpg

Oh yea Ontario Districts whoops.

[cad321]

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky

If you want to see a big school go look at team 5417's school. Its a short drive down to Allen Texas but that Football stadium is probably bigger then most of our team's schools.

http://www.pogueconstruction.com/wp-...-Stadium-1.jpg

Oh yea Ontario Districts whoops.

I'm sorry... that's a school?! Here in ontario I'd consider that a major stadium where the "pros" play. Never in a million years could I see a public school getting that kind of facility/funding up here.

[TDav540]

Originally Posted by cad321

I'm sorry... that's a school?! Here in ontario I'd consider that a major stadium where the "pros" play. Never in a million years could I see a public school getting that kind of facility/funding up here.

Don't worry, you're not the only one who thinks it's ludicrous.

Ontario districts are gonna be awesome, especially district champs. If it's week 7, I'll have to try and find a way up there to volunteer.

[Matt Ciprietti]

Originally Posted by Knufire

Are Canadian secondary schools generally smaller than American high schools? Interesting that all of the district venues are colleges or universities.

Absolutely. Obviously this is going to vary somewhat by region and there are a handful of outliers, but it is generally true. In particular, we don't put as much emphasis on our athletic facilities, which means that many high school gyms only have a seating capacity of perhaps 500 or so. A single high school in my area has a gym designed for almost 2000 people (in a single-court basketball configuration), and that's a huge rarity in the province.

Ontario regionals have always been at these University venues, so it makes sense to maintain them in the district system since they will likely be the same size of event in terms of number of teams. The alternative is cramming smaller events into high schools, which is technically possible, but not as comfortable. As was mentioned in the announcement, a challenge will be to maintain the regional quality on a smaller budget, but I'm confident that FIRST Canada will sort it all out.

As an aside, I'm thrilled that McMaster University (just down the street from our school) will be hosting! I know a lot of people worked for a very long time to bring that to fruition, and they did a great job!