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Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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I might be missing something.....but on the drafting schedule, there isn't a Chesapeake draft.
Fixed, will be the last draft of the season (other than the DCMP drafts). I've also fixed the name of Mexico City to Toluca.
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Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

Falcon will take random teams for both Rock City and Orlando tomorrow.

For anybody wondering what those numbers are under the team names on the schedule sheet, those are how many drafts the team has made a pick in that night (including requests for full random, like above). So far, nobody's missed a draft.


As a side note, I was working on testing an update to the draft-running sheet during the Hub City draft. Survey says... not ready for release. (One bug fix, one functionality upgrade that so far isn't working right.)
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Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

St. Louis Draft is now open. The draft order for it is below:

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Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

F3 and the Regal Falcons have agreed to a trade

The Regal Falcons receive the 5th pick at San Diego
F3 receives the 7th pick for San Diego
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But like.....why?
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F3 and the Regal Falcons have agreed to a trade

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Well, that's a questionable decision, even by my standards.
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But like.....why?
They did it in exchange for a hug.
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They did it in exchange for a hug.
SEVERAL hugs. To be exchanged at North champs. And maybe a favor later, idk.
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SEVERAL hugs. To be exchanged at North champs. And maybe a favor later, idk.
As you can see we are still working on the full terms of the trade.
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This just seems like two teams collaborating and shoving all the good picks/pick slots into one team to win. Trading obviously inferior pick position for a... hug? Cmon man.
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This just seems like two teams collaborating and shoving all the good picks/pick slots into one team to win.
That's just what we were thinking.
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This just seems like two teams collaborating and shoving all the good picks/pick slots into one team to win. Trading obviously inferior pick position for a... hug? Cmon man.
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This just seems like two teams collaborating and shoving all the good picks/pick slots into one team to win. Trading obviously inferior pick position for a... hug? Cmon man.
They are pretty good hugs.
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Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

Alright guys, we changed the way we do pick order so that it would be balanced evently(we had more than a full pick position below the mean last year). Why would we just randomly start switching pick orders around?(This is the first year in the 4 years I've been doing this that this has happened)

It was just a whatever and a slight hassle for me as a draft runner for the first couple, but now things are getting out of hand.

#1 - Swapping #5 straight for #7? Come on, that solely benefits one team and hurts the other. It's basically pooling picks into one team.

#2- And this is what really gets me. As per THIS post, TRF would pick that nights picks for F3, in exchange for a swap of 27 and 2883. So the 7th picking team ends up with a first pick, in exchange for doing someone else's draft? How is that fair for the rest of the teams playing? Here's the kicker, the deal was supposed to mean that "niklas674" would make the picks for F3 at Arizona North. This didn't even happen. F3 proceeded to make their own picks during the duration of the entire draft.


So what does this mean? It means The Regal Falcons have effectively had THREE first picks, while the rest of the teams have only received ONE. It means, malicious or not, one team has effectively gained a draft position advantage over every other team in the league, this is the sole reason we changed how draft orders are done.

My proposal is a simple one. Ban draft position trades, ban allowing non-team members to make picks for you, revoke the 27 and 2883 trade, and just use the completely 100% fair system the way its supposed to be used.

As for the #5 for #7 trade, even if Eric decides he doesn't wanna do the above, I'll quit if it goes through.
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Alright guys, we changed the way we do pick order so that it would be balanced evently(we had more than a full pick position below the mean last year). Why would we just randomly start switching pick orders around?(This is the first year in the 4 years I've been doing this that this has happened)

It was just a whatever and a slight hassle for me as a draft runner for the first couple, but now things are getting out of hand.

#1 - Swapping #5 straight for #7? Come on, that solely benefits one team and hurts the other. It's basically pooling picks into one team.

#2- And this is what really gets me. As per THIS post, TRF would pick that nights picks for F3, in exchange for a swap of 27 and 2883. So the 7th picking team ends up with a first pick, in exchange for doing someone else's draft? How is that fair for the rest of the teams playing? Here's the kicker, the deal was supposed to mean that "niklas674" would make the picks for F3 at Arizona North. This didn't even happen. F3 proceeded to make their own picks during the duration of the entire draft.


So what does this mean? It means The Regal Falcons have effectively had THREE first picks, while the rest of the teams have only received ONE. It means, malicious or not, one team has effectively gained a draft position advantage over every other team in the league, this is the sole reason we changed how draft orders are done.

My proposal is a simple one. Ban draft position trades, ban allowing non-team members to make picks for you, revoke the 27 and 2883 trade, and just use the completely 100% fair system the way its supposed to be used.

As for the #5 for #7 trade, even if Eric decides he doesn't wanna do the above, I'll quit if it goes through.
What you didn't see is that we were talking to Regal Falcons all throughout that post. Our automated draft system was immobilized due to some heavy debugging earlier that day causing us to exceed our Google API calls for that day. That meant we had no draft list. The Regal Falcons basically saved us from having to go full random. They supplied us a rudimentary pick list, mainly from niklas674. In the end, he still made our drafts even if we were the ones posting in the forum. Due to family stuff, we didn't know if either of us were actually going to be available during the draft to relay these, so we just gave it to them.

Also, see Adi's post for the explanation of the other. Frankly, we screwed up. In a lot of ways. For both of us.
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