Best in your State/Region

[Kevin Leonard]

Best in NY in 2016:

By Average OPR:

1. 5254 [48.6]
2. 4006 [47.1]
3. 870 [45.1]
4. 3419 [40.7]
5. 329 [40.5]

By Championship Results:

1. 3015 [Championship Finalist as second selection]
2. 1405 [Championship Finalist as backup bot]
3. 694 [Einstein Quarterfinals as captain]
4. 1511 [Einstein Quarterfinals as backup bot]
5. [TIE] 5254/329 [Division Finals as backup bot]

By Championship Selection Order:

1. 639 [Sixth Alliance Captain]
2. 3419 [Sixth Overall Selection]
3. 333 [Seventh Alliance Captain]
4. 694 [Eighth Alliance Captain]
5. 229 [Eighth Overall Selection]

By Championship Seed:

1. 639 [6]
2. 694 [8]
3. 333 [10]
4. 229 [13]
5. 329 [14]

By Regional Results:

1. 20 [#6 Seed and Winner, #7 Seed and Finalist]
2. 1126 [#1 Seed and Winner, #14 Seed and Semifinalist]
3. 5254 [#2 Seed and Finalist, #1 Seed and Semifinalist]
4. 694 [#8 Seed and Winner, #36 Seed and Quarterfinalist]
5. 3419 [#3 Seed and Finalist, #5 Seed and Semifinalist]

In my opinion, Overall:

1. 5254
2. 694
3. 3419
4. 20
5. 2791

Best in NY the past 5 years:

By OPR:

1. 1507 [Average NY OPR Rank 9.6]
2. 329 [Average NY OPR Rank 10]
3. 5254* [Average NY OPR Rank 10.7]
4. 3015 [Average NY OPR Rank 12.8]
5. 340 [Average NY OPR Rank 17.4]

*5254 has only been around for 3 of the 5 years in question.

By Championship Results:

1. 3015 [Einstein Finalist 2016 and Division Finalist 2015]
2. 20 [Einstein Quarterfinals 2015, Division Quarters 2013, 2014, 2016]
3. 639 [Division Finals 2012, Division Semifinals 2016]
4. 694 [Einstein Quarters 2016]
5. [TIE] 3419 [Division Semifinals 2016, Division Quarterfinals 2015] / 340 [Division Semifinals 2015, Division Quarterfinals 2014]

By Regional Results:

1. 20 [5 Regional Wins, 3 Finalists]
2. 340 [3 Regional Wins, 2 Finalists]
3. 3015 [2 Regional Wins, 4 Finalists]
4. 1507 [3 Regional Wins, 1 Finalist]
5. 1126 [2 Regional Wins, 1 Finalist]

Overall:

1. 3015
2. 20
3. 1507
4. 694
5. 340

Culture:

1. 1511
2. 340
3. 694
4. 329
5. 229

As much as possible of this is objective, but some is obviously subjective, and judgement calls are necessary with any sort of list like this.

[M217]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Best in NY in 2016:

By Average OPR:

1. 5254
2. 4006
3. 870
4. 3419
5. 329

By Championship Results:

1. 3015
2. 1405
3. 694
4. 1511
5. 5254/329 [TIE]

By Championship Selection Order:

1. 639
2. 3419
3. 333
4. 694
5. 1796

By Championship Seed:

1. 639
2. 694
3. 333
4. 229
5. 329

By Regional Results:

1. 20
2. 5254
3. 694
4. 1126
5. 3419

In my opinion, Overall:

1. 5254
2. 694
3. 3419
4. 20
5. 2791

Best in NY the past 5 years:

By OPR:

1. 1507
2. 329
3. 5254*
4. 3015
5. 340

By Championship Results:

1. 3015
2. 20
3. 639
4. 694
5. 3419

Overall:

1. 3015
2. 20
3. 1507
4. 694
5. 340

As much as possible of this is objective, but some is obviously subjective, and judgement calls are necessary with any sort of list like this.

This is a really good list I think, good enough that I don't think it's necessary to post my own since it matches up 90%+. Your team's been doing an amazing job the past few seasons, and your work has honestly blown me away -- keep up the good work!

[Jay O'Donnell]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Best in NY in 2016:

By Average OPR:

1. 5254 [48.6]
2. 4006 [47.1]
3. 870 [45.1]
4. 3419 [40.7]
5. 329 [40.5]

By Championship Results:

1. 3015 [Championship Finalist as second selection]
2. 1405 [Championship Finalist as backup bot]
3. 694 [Einstein Quarterfinals as captain]
4. 1511 [Einstein Quarterfinals as backup bot]
5. [TIE] 5254/329 [Division Finals as backup bot]

By Championship Selection Order:

1. 639 [Sixth Alliance Captain]
2. 3419 [Sixth Overall Selection]
3. 333 [Seventh Alliance Captain]
4. 694 [Eighth Alliance Captain]
5. 1796 [Twelfth Overall Selection]

By Championship Seed:

1. 639 [6]
2. 694 [8]
3. 333 [10]
4. 229 [13]
5. 329 [14]

By Regional Results:

1. 20 [1 Winner, 1 Finalist]
2. 5254 [1 Winner, 1 #1 Seed and Semifinalist]
3. 694 [1 Winner, 1 Quarterfinalist]
4. 1126 [1 Winner, 1 Quarterfinalist]
5. 3419 [1 Finalist, 1 #5 Seed and Semifinalist]

In my opinion, Overall:

1. 5254
2. 694
3. 3419
4. 20
5. 2791

Best in NY the past 5 years:

By OPR:

1. 1507
2. 329
3. 5254*
4. 3015
5. 340

By Championship Results:

1. 3015 [Einstein Finalist 2016 and Division Finalist 2015]
2. 20 [Einstein Quarterfinals 2015, Division Quarters 2013, 2014, 2016]
3. 639 [Division Finals 2012, Division Semifinals 2016]
4. 694 [Einstein Quarters 2016]
5. [TIE] 3419 [Division Semifinals 2016, Division Quarterfinals 2015] / 340 [Division Semifinals 2015, Division Quarterfinals 2014]

Overall:

1. 3015
2. 20
3. 1507
4. 694
5. 340

As much as possible of this is objective, but some is obviously subjective, and judgement calls are necessary with any sort of list like this.

Nitpicking but 229 should be 5th on the championship picks list since we were 8th overall pick on Newton.

Not saying we should've been, but we were.

[A Mountain Man]

Hello again, all! I've missed you. Let's take a little detour.

I was wondering this same question to myself right after the championships: "What mountain teams were the best this year, and in years past?" However, I got carried away and I took my question further, instead asking "What team would be the best if the entire Rocky Mountain Region was in the district format during 2016?" So, I calculated by hand the number of district points each team would have received if the district system were present in the region this year. (I'm a mountain man. I don't know how to make software do things for me.) I have organized the list by the tiebreaker rules, and have come up with a very interesting result. You can find that document here.

A few important things about the document:

• All the teams with a green background would have qualified for Championships, as they are the top 20%. This, of course, does not factor in the recipients of the Rookie All Star, Engineering Inspiration, or Chairman's Award at a theoretical district championship, nor does it estimate what teams would have qualified for a district championship. This list also does not factor in the estimated number of points from a district championship, as one did not happen.
• I have finally decided on a geographic area to monitor, and it does/will not include the PNW region or British Columbia. That is why they are not present.
• I am not perfect. This list may be incorrect in some of the ordering.

I hope you all enjoy this interesting thought experiment. I'll be back soon with the answers to the main questions and more data! Stay tuned.

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Originally Posted by A Mountain Man

Hello again, all! I've missed you. Let's take a little detour.

I was wondering this same question to myself right after the championships: "What mountain teams were the best this year, and in years past?" However, I got carried away and I took my question further, instead asking "What team would be the best if the entire Rocky Mountain Region was in the district format during 2016?" So, I calculated by hand the number of district points each team would have received if the district system were present in the region this year. (I'm a mountain man. I don't know how to make software do things for me.) I have organized the list by the tiebreaker rules, and have come up with a very interesting result. You can find that document here.

A few important things about the document:

• All the teams with a green background would have qualified for Championships, as they are the top 20%. This, of course, does not factor in the recipients of the Rookie All Star, Engineering Inspiration, or Chairman's Award at a theoretical district championship, nor does it estimate what teams would have qualified for a district championship. This list also does not factor in the estimated number of points from a district championship, as one did not happen.
• I have finally decided on a geographic area to monitor, and it does/will not include the PNW region or British Columbia. That is why they are not present.
• I am not perfect. This list may be incorrect in some of the ordering.

I hope you all enjoy this interesting thought experiment. I'll be back soon with the answers to the main questions and more data! Stay tuned.

I think the list would be more accurate if you took the average of the events each team did or double the total points if a team only attended one event. As it stands now, a team that only attended one event is below where they should be.

[Ben Martin]

I can't remember if this originally came from Antonio or Scott, but this district point spreadsheet is pretty good at reflecting the most successful teams competition-wise in MAR over the past 5 years. 341 might be a couple spots low, since they had a great robot in 2013 and didn't attend MAR Champs that year (they were the #1 ranked team in MAR going into the event).

[A Mountain Man]

Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb)

I think the list would be more accurate if you took the average of the events each team did or double the total points if a team only attended one event. As it stands now, a team that only attended one event is below where they should be.

I hadn't thought about that. I'll see what it looks like if I did.

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell

Nitpicking but 229 should be 5th on the championship picks list since we were 8th overall pick on Newton.

Not saying we should've been, but we were.

You're correct. I recalled that 229 got picked, but I assumed it was much later in the draft. Updated as such.

[Kevin Leonard]

One more list I played with- Sorted by Average OPR Rank during the past 5 years while removing each team's worst year:

1. 5254* [1]
2. 1507 [4.75]
3. 3015 [7.75]
4. 340 [8]
5. 20 [9]

*Now 5254 only has two years to calculate from, but whatever.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

One more list I played with- Sorted by Average OPR Rank during the past 5 years while removing each team's worst year:

1. 5254* [1]
2. 1507 [4.75]
3. 3015 [7.75]
4. 340 [8]
5. 20 [9]

*Now 5254 only has two years to calculate from, but whatever.

Okay dude now you're just purposefully creating ranking algorithms that make 5254 look good

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Okay dude now you're just purposefully creating ranking algorithms that make 5254 look good

It was more that I noticed that a bunch of good teams had one bad year pulling them down, like 20's 2012, 340's 2016, 639's 2015, and I wondered what it would be like if you removed the one bad year for each team. I considered not removing a year for 5254 as well, but I thought that might be a weird exception to make. Although I understand why it makes it look like I'm padding 5254's stats.

For the record, in the past 5 years, 1507 was the #1 ranked team by OPR twice, 5254 was twice, and 20 was once.
1507 has maintained an awesome amount of consistency in that even in their worst years they find a way to be a contender, and in their good years they dominate.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Okay dude now you're just purposefully creating ranking algorithms that make 5254 look good

No need to hype 5254. Their performance speaks for itself.

If hype you must, ask, "Which NY team would have earned the most points at IRI, if IRI were a district competition?"

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace

No need to hype 5254. Their performance speaks for itself.

If hype you must, ask, "Which NY team would have earned the most points at IRI, if IRI were a district competition?"

Kevin knows I have a deep love for 5254; they're like 2791's best friend! Lots of information sharing between the two teams this year. I just think, let the performances speak for themselves, you know? Kevin, everyone who has their finger on the pulse of competitive FRC (the kind of people who read summer CD) knows that 5254 is the real deal. We get it, you iterate, etc.

Back on topic, I've been meaning to compile stats for CT, but I don't know what kind of convenient OPR calculator everyone is using these days. Could anyone supply some links to resources I could use to gather this information? Or is it all in the cloud / online somewhere now?

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Kevin knows I have a deep love for 5254; they're like 2791's best friend! Lots of information sharing between the two teams this year. I just think, let the performances speak for themselves, you know? Kevin, everyone who has their finger on the pulse of competitive FRC (the kind of people who read summer CD) knows that 5254 is the real deal. We get it, you iterate, etc.

Back on topic, I've been meaning to compile stats for CT, but I don't know what kind of convenient OPR calculator everyone is using these days. Could anyone supply some links to resources I could use to gather this information? Or is it all in the cloud / online somewhere now?

Top teams that consistently choke in eliminations in Western NY:

1. 5254

Top teams that have seeded first at Finger Lakes twice and failed to take home the banner:

1. 5254

Sure there are a lot of lists I could make where 5254 comes in first.

[hutchMN]

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard

Top teams that consistently choke in eliminations in Western NY:

1. 5254

Top teams that have seeded first at Finger Lakes twice and failed to take home the banner:

1. 5254

Sure there are a lot of lists I could make where 5254 comes in first.

I can join the club too
Teams that worked for a grand total of 1 match before elims, but still got picked in the top 4, and then broke down again during elims:
1) 2502