Pockets on Women's Pants

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After a quick consult with some active relatives, I found some pants which meet storage criteria.

http://www.scoutstuff.org/bsa/unifor...vt-ldy-29.html

Originally Posted by Botilicious

I totally agree. Sometimes pockets can go too far though.



It would take me half an hour to get into my house with these bad boys. Now where did I put my keys?

Where can I buy those?

[nerdrock101]

I have had luck with bog standard Target jeans. They have pockets that my entire hand can fit in and they're marginally more flattering than work pants. They've held up well to chemical splatter, but I haven't had any run-ins with mechanical damage yet to speak to its strength there.

[Whatever]

When I was mentoring FTC we ended up having a discussion with the driver of the robot as to whether she should be wearing a purse while driving. I was concerned that it looks unprofessional and could effect their draft position. She did it anyways and they did get drafted as the second pick of the first alliance in their division. They also ended up using one of the pictures of her while driving in the event programs during the next year.

I did notice the head referee of the division we were in at worlds also wore a purse while refereeing. I still think it looks unprofessional but maybe it is just me.

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by Whatever

When I was mentoring FTC we ended up having a discussion with the driver of the robot as to whether she should be wearing a purse while driving. I was concerned that it looks unprofessional and could effect their draft position. She did it anyways and they did get drafted as the second pick of the first alliance in their division. They also ended up using one of the pictures of her while driving in the event programs during the next year.

I did notice the head referee of the division we were in at worlds also wore a purse while refereeing. I still think it looks unprofessional but maybe it is just me.

Is it unprofessional for a man to have a pocket bulging with his wallet or phone in it while driving a robot or refereeing? If not, why is it unprofessional for a woman to wear a small bag holding similar items while performing the same tasks?

The only reason I could possibly imagine saying that wearing a purse is unprofessional is if such an item affects a person's performance in their role. I don't think that would be the case with either of the situations you highlighted - a properly secured bag could easily handle the rigors of walking back and forth around the field without getting in the way.

[FrankJ]

My only concern with a purse would be the same as any number of dangles a person might wear, and that would be dangers from moving machinery. Not really an issue for a driver or a referee, much more so for pit crew.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Whatever

When I was mentoring FTC we ended up having a discussion with the driver of the robot as to whether she should be wearing a purse while driving. I was concerned that it looks unprofessional and could effect their draft position. She did it anyways and they did get drafted as the second pick of the first alliance in their division. They also ended up using one of the pictures of her while driving in the event programs during the next year.

I did notice the head referee of the division we were in at worlds also wore a purse while refereeing. I still think it looks unprofessional but maybe it is just me.

You might want to take a step back and try and figure out why you find a purse specifically unprofessional. There's obviously some gendered connotations to this, and perhaps to some extent your internal view of what constitutes "professional" includes "non-feminine". That's probably not great.

Even if you think anybody holding any kind of bag anywhere looks unprofessional - which gender's default clothing has pockets that are so small, going without a bag isn't always an option? This is an internal bias that is going to cause you to view more women as unprofessional than men.

We all have internal biases over things that, in a vacuum, logically make sense, but when applied to society as a whole tend to distort our views toward particular groups. This doesn't make you a bad person or whatever, it's just something to be aware of and to try and counteract.

[Whatever]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

You might want to take a step back and try and figure out why you find a purse specifically unprofessional. There's obviously some gendered connotations to this, and perhaps to some extent your internal view of what constitutes "professional" includes "non-feminine". That's probably not great.

Even if you think anybody holding any kind of bag anywhere looks unprofessional - which gender's default clothing has pockets that are so small, going without a bag isn't always an option? This is an internal bias that is going to cause you to view more women as unprofessional than men.

We all have internal biases over things that, in a vacuum, logically make sense, but when applied to society as a whole tend to distort our views toward particular groups. This doesn't make you a bad person or whatever, it's just something to be aware of and to try and counteract.

For the record, I found the field reset people and referees wearing backpacks to look unprofessional too. It wasn't just purses but that seemed to be inline with the whole lack of pockets discussion. When I did field reset, we were specifically told to not have anything extraneous with us. I am signed up to referee at an upcoming off season event and my plan is to eliminate any possible distraction on my person that I can.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Whatever

I did notice the head referee of the division we were in at worlds also wore a purse while refereeing. I still think it looks unprofessional but maybe it is just me.

Knowing the head ref in question:

Golf skirts (her preferred attire when reffing) and FRC Head Ref polos have one thing in common: no pockets. Kind of a problem if you need to have the cards handy (and can't borrow some gaff tape to stick them to the tablet). And while you're at it, you may as well stick the volunteer badge, phone, and a couple of other critical things in there. The bulky stuff gets stashed elsewhere.

I would say that having to go to a "stash point" every 5-10 minutes to retrieve something important is a lot less professional than carrying items with you in whatever is reasonably handy and small.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by EricH

Golf skirts

Following this lead, I did find that women's golf pants should all have pockets (not sure about the size, but they're there!). Similarly, most tennis skirts will have pockets as well. Could be a decent alternative for comfy pants that also have utility needed at events/around the shop!

http://www.kohls.com/product/prd-196...FdiIYgodV4UL6Q

[marshall]

Holy crap, 7 pages... This is the best summer CD thread ever.

EDIT: And 0 positive rep from it... you all suck!

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by marshall

Holy crap, 7 pages... This is the best summer CD thread ever.

EDIT: And 0 positive rep from it... you all suck!

They're just dots

[techhelpbb]

I think I am gonna start wearing cargo pants all the time.
I challenge the status quo - its just me.

(Helps I work from home 4 days a week )

[GeeTwo]

Originally Posted by marshall

Holy crap, 7 pages... This is the best summer CD thread ever.

EDIT: And 0 positive rep from it... you all suck!

Maybe no rep, but at last count, there were five highlight posts from this thread, including a bit from your OP about zebra stripes.

[tcjinaz]

Originally Posted by marshall

Holy crap, 7 pages... This is the best summer CD thread ever.

EDIT: And 0 positive rep from it... you all suck!

I am amazed, and way late to this party.

Y'all need to look at apparel from 5.11. They have some highly useful gear cut appropriately for men and women. Check out LA Police Gear, or your local shooting emporium.

Poser, but wearing bloody useful pants,
Tim

[PAR_WIG1350]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

...golf pants...

Golf pants are awesome! They are breathable, lightweight, and they look good. Unfortunately, the pockets are one of the few flaws that I have experienced with golf pants. The pockets of men's golf pants (the only kind I have experience with) are of an acceptable size, but, at least for some designs, are prone to having their contents fall out if you are not standing up.

YMMV