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Re: pic: Team 3688 Lexan Line Bender 12 volt

This is cool, especially with the construction video. Thanks for sharing! I actually need something similar to this for work... you may have helped me save a good chunk of my project budget
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Re: pic: Team 3688 Lexan Line Bender 12 volt

Can you post a few lines on how you use it?

How do you hold the plastic in place? Do you use a form/guide to give it the curve you want?
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Re: pic: Team 3688 Lexan Line Bender 12 volt

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Can you post a few lines on how you use it?

How do you hold the plastic in place? Do you use a form/guide to give it the curve you want?
Sure!

First, though, a note about heat: The nichrome wire should glow orange-red when it's hot enough. If it doesn't get there, then either the voltage is too low or the wire (a resistor) is too long for the available voltage (ohm's law).

OK: the acrylic/plexiglass/lexan is placed over the wire channel, as shown in the photo. For a sharp, consistent bend, (and for small pieces) it's sometimes helpful to place a piece of wood on the half that will not move during the bend.

Depending on thickness, it can take a half minute or more to get hot enough to bend. You'll know. If you try too soon, you'll get an uneven and unpredictable bend; if you wait too long, the plastic will bubble and get thin, decreasing its strength.

When ready: if working alone, disconnect the power supply and quickly fold the hinged half up to the desired angle. Hold it there until the plastic has cooled and regained strength. If not working alone, then you can take a bit more time making the bend and then have someone disconnect the power while you hold the bend.

Pretty simple, really. Still, it's a good idea to practice on some scrap pieces first.

BTW, this thread had it's origin in "Uses of Lexan": https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...d.php?t=150980
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Re: pic: Team 3688 Lexan Line Bender 12 volt

As mentioned in the mother thread, this video served as our inspiration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT9EXnmRpHs&t=0s

I just noticed that in the comments accompanying it, the author posted a video of it being used:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT9EXnmRpHs&t=0s
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Re: pic: Team 3688 Lexan Line Bender 12 volt

Acrylic and Polycarbonate (Lexan) are two very different materials, and bend in very different ways. For acrylic, this technique works very well. However, acrylic is brittle and prone to cracking, and I cannot think of any application where it would be suitable in an FRC robot.

Polycarbonate on the other hand is very resilient. We simply bend it on a sheet metal brake, cold, just as you would metal, and it comes out great. You just have to overbend to compensate for the spring back.
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Re: pic: Team 3688 Lexan Line Bender 12 volt

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Polycarbonate on the other hand is very resilient. We simply bend it on a sheet metal brake, cold, just as you would metal, and it comes out great. You just have to overbend to compensate for the spring back.
We do something similar although we actually heat a line first and then bend with our brake. It makes a perfect bend every time. We use one of these http://www.delviesplastics.com/p/Stripheater.html but you can obviously just build something like 3688 did.
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Acrylic and Polycarbonate (Lexan) are two very different materials, and bend in very different ways. For acrylic, this technique works very well. However, acrylic is brittle and prone to cracking, and I cannot think of any application where it would be suitable in an FRC robot.

Polycarbonate on the other hand is very resilient. We simply bend it on a sheet metal brake, cold, just as you would metal, and it comes out great. You just have to overbend to compensate for the spring back.
Excellent! We'll bring a sheet metal brake with us to our next competition
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Re: pic: Team 3688 Lexan Line Bender 12 volt

Thanks for the help!
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Acrylic and Polycarbonate (Lexan) are two very different materials, and bend in very different ways. For acrylic, this technique works very well. However, acrylic is brittle and prone to cracking, and I cannot think of any application where it would be suitable in an FRC robot.
We don't have the resources for a sheet metal bender... But this bender cost us very little and serves us well. Being portable doesn't hurt either.

Also, we use our acrylic supply to test our ideas before using the precious lexan.

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Also, we use our acrylic supply to test our ideas before using the precious lexan.
Once you understand the difference between acrylic and lexan, why do you let any acrylic within a mile of your build site? It can only end in tears.
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Once you understand the difference between acrylic and lexan, why do you let any acrylic within a mile of your build site? It can only end in tears.
I've heard of teams prototyping with lasercut acrylic because polycarbonate absorbs infrared radiation and can be a pain to cut. Acrylic is usually cheaper and just as easy to find.
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I've heard of teams prototyping with lasercut acrylic because polycarbonate absorbs infrared radiation and can be a pain to cut. Acrylic is usually cheaper and just as easy to find.
If you've got a laser cutter, plywood cuts great and is way cheaper than acrylic. And it's lighter and more resilient, so you can make your whole robot out of it.

The lexan bender is really cool though.
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Once you understand the difference between acrylic and lexan, why do you let any acrylic within a mile of your build site? It can only end in tears.
It's only for prototyping shapes and never gets stressed or used in a competition. We use it because we have it.
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Once you understand the difference between acrylic and lexan, why do you let any acrylic within a mile of your build site? It can only end in tears.


Still useful for non-contact display items. Example - laser cutting team awards. Less uses but certainly still viable as a material.
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