PNW 2017 Home events

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For the first time that I've seen FIRSTWA has publicly released which teams are assigned what home event. See here: https://www.firstwa.org/Team-Resourc...erence-Reports

So here are some statistics about them:

Total teams: 158
Home is one that earned points at last year: 113

2016	2017	Event name
Teams	Home
34	27	Auburn
39	12	Auburn Mountainview
39	6	Central Washington University
30	6	Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science
38	30	Glacier Peak
0	28	Lake Oswego
34	11	Mount Vernon
26	0	Philomath
34	24	West Valley
36	14	Wilsonville

Teams that did not earn points at their 2017 home event in 2016:

Auburn
	[488, 1258, 1983, 2557, 3574, 3576, 4450, 5803]
Auburn Mountainview
	[3221, 3588]
Central Washington University
	[3831]
Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science
	[753, 3711]
Glacier Peak
	[1294]
Lake Oswego
	[1432, 1510, 1540, 2002, 2374, 2411, 2471, 2635, 2733, 2811, 2915, 3131, 3192, 3636, 3673, 3674, 3812, 4051, 4127, 4132, 4488, 4662, 4692, 5450, 5956, 5970, 5975, 5977]
Mount Vernon
	[]
Philomath
	[]
West Valley
	[]
Wilsonville
	[568, 1359, 3024]

Of the teams that earned points at an event last year what is their 2017 home event?

Auburn
	(19, 'Auburn')
	(9, 'Auburn Mountainview')
	(4, 'Glacier Peak')
	(1, 'Wilsonville')
	(1, 'Mount Vernon')
Auburn Mountainview
	(17, 'Auburn')
	(10, 'Auburn Mountainview')
	(8, 'Glacier Peak')
	(4, 'Mount Vernon')
Central Washington University
	(24, 'West Valley')
	(6, 'Auburn')
	(5, 'Central Washington University')
	(2, 'Auburn Mountainview')
	(1, 'Glacier Peak')
	(1, 'Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science')
Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science
	(21, 'Lake Oswego')
	(4, 'Wilsonville')
	(4, 'Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science')
	(1, 'Glacier Peak')
Glacier Peak
	(29, 'Glacier Peak')
	(5, 'Mount Vernon')
	(3, 'Auburn')
	(1, 'Wilsonville')
Lake Oswego
Mount Vernon
	(17, 'Glacier Peak')
	(11, 'Mount Vernon')
	(4, 'Auburn')
	(1, 'Wilsonville')
	(1, 'Auburn Mountainview')
Philomath
	(10, 'Wilsonville')
	(10, 'Lake Oswego')
	(3, 'Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science')
	(2, 'Auburn')
	(1, 'Auburn Mountainview')
West Valley
	(24, 'West Valley')
	(5, 'Central Washington University')
	(3, 'Lake Oswego')
	(1, 'Auburn Mountainview')
	(1, 'Auburn')
Wilsonville
	(21, 'Lake Oswego')
	(11, 'Wilsonville')
	(4, 'Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science')

Of teams w/ a designated 2017 home, which events did they earn points at last year?

Auburn
	(19, 'Auburn')
	(17, 'Auburn Mountainview')
	(6, 'Central Washington University')
	(4, 'Mount Vernon')
	(3, 'Glacier Peak')
	(2, 'Philomath')
	(1, 'West Valley')
Auburn Mountainview
	(10, 'Auburn Mountainview')
	(9, 'Auburn')
	(2, 'Central Washington University')
	(1, 'West Valley')
	(1, 'Philomath')
	(1, 'Mount Vernon')
Central Washington University
	(5, 'West Valley')
	(5, 'Central Washington University')
Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science
	(4, 'Wilsonville')
	(4, 'Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science')
	(3, 'Philomath')
	(1, 'Central Washington University')
Glacier Peak
	(29, 'Glacier Peak')
	(17, 'Mount Vernon')
	(8, 'Auburn Mountainview')
	(4, 'Auburn')
	(1, 'Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science')
	(1, 'Central Washington University')
Lake Oswego
	(21, 'Wilsonville')
	(21, 'Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science')
	(10, 'Philomath')
	(3, 'West Valley')
Mount Vernon
	(11, 'Mount Vernon')
	(5, 'Glacier Peak')
	(4, 'Auburn Mountainview')
	(1, 'Auburn')
Philomath
West Valley
	(24, 'West Valley')
	(24, 'Central Washington University')
Wilsonville
	(11, 'Wilsonville')
	(10, 'Philomath')
	(4, 'Clackamas Academy of Industrial Science')
	(1, 'Mount Vernon')
	(1, 'Glacier Peak')
	(1, 'Auburn')

[InFlight]

Eric,
The teams that did not earn 2016 points in their 2017 home event is an odd statistic.

Most of the teams that didn't earn points in their 2016 week 5 Home Event (Auburn, Clackamas) were due to it being a third event.

Obviously anyone selecting Lake Oswego as a home event this year would make this list as well.

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Originally Posted by InFlight

Eric,
The teams that did not earn 2016 points in their 2017 home event is an odd statistic.

Most of the teams that didn't earn points in their 2016 week 5 Home Event (Auburn, Clackamas) were due to it being a third event.

Obviously anyone selecting Lake Oswego as a home event this year would make this list as well.

Looking at teams that didn't earn points in 2016 at what will be their 2017 home was meant to be a proxy for whether or not they went there last year.

I'm not sure that I understand your comment about Auburn and Clackamas. Here's what it looks like to me:

Team	2017 Home	Reason for no points there in 2016
753	Clackamas	did not attend
3711	Clackamas	did not attend
488	Auburn		did not attend
1258	Auburn		did not attend
1983	Auburn		did not attend
2557	Auburn		did not attend
3574	Auburn		3rd event
3576	Auburn		no show
4450	Auburn		did not attend
5803	Auburn		did not attend

I can't find any team besides yours where they didn't get points because it was their third event.

[InFlight]

A bunch of those didn't attend Auburn teams were at district championships. It's really a week 5 event issue.

If you look there are a few teams that helped fill out an event the prior week, and thus couldn't attend as it would have been a fourth event. 1983 & 5803, others?

Some Teams may have opted not to travel remote to what would have been a third event when they were already qualified for districts.

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Originally Posted by InFlight

A bunch of those didn't attend Auburn teams were at district championships. It's really a week 5 event issue.

If you look there are a few teams that helped fill out an event the prior week, and thus couldn't attend as it would have been a fourth event. 1983 & 5803, others?

Some Teams may have opted not to travel remote to what would have been a third event when they were already qualified for districts.

You're right, the set of teams assigned to Auburn as their 2017 home that didn't earn points there last year is very competitive bunch.

Is there a rule against doing a 4th district event? This is the first I've heard. I could definately see nobody wanting to do a 4th though. It seems that the two teams that you mentioned (1983 and 5803) are the only two to which this would have applied.

Interestingly, all of the those teams that weren't signed up for Auburn last year went to at least one event that was significantly further away from them, either Central Washington or Philomath.

This is probably a good time to add: My team has gone to Auburn the last two years in a row and very much enjoyed it both times. They did a total rebuild of the facility before last year and it came out beautifully. The only downside is the distance between the pits and the gym, but in my mind this makes it good practice for worlds. We probably would have signed up again this year except that we were wary of doing 3 travel events.

[InFlight]

There are district provisions to add a third event for an additional $1000. There are no provisions for a fourth event.

I assume the “home event” is just the initial registration request. I really look at the two Auburn Events, and Wilsonville & Oregon City pairs as the same team geographic pools, just different weeks.

Philomath has had attendance size issues. Last year to make this event viable; IRS, Skunks, Bear Metal, Lions, High Tekerz and Apex all traveled from the Puget Sound to help bring this event up to 30 teams. Which helps explain some of the distance traveled.

Some teams will minimize travel & costs and just do the closest events. Other’s will choose to try out further away events.

We’re likely the only Puget Sound team to attend one Oregon event each year of the district model. - Wilsonville (2015 & 2017), Oregon City (2014), and Philomath (2016). Guess will have to add Lake Oswego at some point!

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Originally Posted by InFlight

I assume the “home event” is just the initial registration request. I really look at the two Auburn Events, and Wilsonville & Oregon City pairs as the same team geographic pools, just different weeks.

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We’re likely the only Puget Sound team to attend one Oregon event each year of the district model. - Wilsonville (2015 & 2017), Oregon City (2014), and Philomath (2016). Guess will have to add Lake Oswego at some point!

Home events are assigned to teams by the district. The only practical consequence of a home event assignment is that for the initial registration teams have the option to either sign up for their home event or wait until later to be allowed to sign up for any event.

Home events are assigned quasi-geographically, and they seem to make sense for the most part. However, there isn't any definite criteria published and thing that seems to be 100% consistent is that a team hosting an event gets that as their home.

From a travel standpoint, I agree that the Auburn and Auburn Mountainview events are interchangable, and that the same is true for Oregon City and Wilsonville. Interestingly, the new Lake Oswego event is also really close to both Oregon City and Wilsonville - if you were driving South from Washington just get off the freeway 10 minutes earlier.

We're going to look forward to seeing your team and your robot next year. Will it go back to being round? I think we've found that we like to do about one trip to Washington every year, so assuming that we make it to district championships again we'll have met our quota.