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The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

So I made this thread, four years ago and clicking through it many of the teams (Including my own choices) have won events since then.

So I figured I would start a new discussion but add some new rules as well as keep the old ones:
1. You must compete with the team fairly regularly
2. The team must have competed in 4 straight FRC seasons aka since 2013
3. Teams must already be signed up to compete in the 2017 season
4. They can not have won any official event
5. An official event is one that provides a FIRST Blue Banner (Regional, Distict, District Championship, Division, Subdivision, and Championship)
6. They can not be your team or teams.

While not a requirement I also would like everyone to list why they think they are good, and what has kept them from getting the coveted winner title.
Bad Luck? Mechanical Inconsistencies? Scouting Issues?

So from Florida I am going to say 3556 GET SMART and 3653 BOTCATS.

3556 was the easy one for me because they are the team that appears to be on their way to being the next big player in Florida FRC. In their 6 years and 8 regionals they have only missed elims once. And those 7 elims appearances include two finalist appearances in 2012 and 2016. 3556 to me is always just one slightly different decision, or one bit of luck going a different way from getting that blue banner and I have faith they are just about to finally have everything come together.

3653 has two finalists appearances (2012 and 2015) over there 6 years, same as 3556, but are not as consistent as GET SMART (Missing 5 elims out of 11 regionals). But after looking at teams who hadn't won I noticed that 3653 always improves in between their events and does better, hence a late bloomer. 3653 needs to find consistency earlier in the season to get their win, because with their proven ability to improve I know they are capable of producing a robot to win earlier.

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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

I'm so happy that my team no longer qualifies for this.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

I'm shocked 4536 hasn't won an official event yet. They have been one of the top teams at 10k for the last 3 years.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

5254 Hype somehow hasn't won an event yet.
They've been to IRI twice in their three years of existence without winning an official event.
That shows you how impressive they actually are.
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5254 Hype somehow hasn't won an event yet.
TECHNICALLY, 5254 is ineligible by James' criteria. They were a rookie in 2014, he lists 4 years of FRC experience ('since 2013') as a requirement.

And even then, Kevin likes to take out a year to gauge their performance.

Let's give them a few years
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

Consider 1885.

They have only missed Championship once since their rookie year in 2006.

They have earned 7 blue banners since 2012, but none of them happen to say "Winner".

Over 33 lifetime events, they have been eliminated 4 times in the finals, 4 times in the semifinals, and 10 times in the quarterfinals.

Nobody can beat these stats.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

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Consider 1885.

They have only missed Championship once since their rookie year in 2006.

They have earned 7 blue banners since 2012, but none of them happen to say "Winner".

Over 33 lifetime events, they have been eliminated 4 times in the finals, 4 times in the semifinals, and 10 times in the quarterfinals.

Nobody can beat these stats.
I honestly thought of them and dismissed them immediately for being too good to have not won an event. This actually blows my mind.
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Consider 1885.

They have only missed Championship once since their rookie year in 2006.

They have earned 7 blue banners since 2012, but none of them happen to say "Winner".

Over 33 lifetime events, they have been eliminated 4 times in the finals, 4 times in the semifinals, and 10 times in the quarterfinals.

Nobody can beat these stats.
And on top of that they have two WFFA's. I don't know what witch they upset but man are they cursed.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

Within the North Carolina District:

3196 has yet to receive a blue banner, but they won Rookie All Star in 2010, and had a Dean's List Finalist in 2012. They won the Gracious Professionalism Award in 2016, and their robots aren't bad at all. Definitely deserving of a win IMO.

As honorable mentions, I would throw in 4767 and 3215 as "sleeper teams". With both making eliminations in 2016, they seem to be improving, especially since the district transition.
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3196 has yet to receive a blue banner, but they won Rookie All Star in 2010 and got to Einstein in 2012.
3196 did not make it to Einstein in 2012. They were not picked for elims in their division.
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3196 did not make it to Einstein in 2012. They were not picked for elims in their division.
That didn't seem right to me, either, but...TBA says they were on Einstein, they just didn't play in any matches... I think TBA has been wrong before though.
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That didn't seem right to me, either, but...TBA says they were on Einstein, they just didn't play in any matches... I think TBA has been wrong before though.
They have a dean's list winner from 2012, which since it's awarded at the Einstein level (vs at the division level), means Einstein shows up even though they didn't play on it.
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They have a dean's list winner from 2012, which since it's awarded at the Einstein level (vs at the division level), means Einstein shows up even though they didn't play on it.
Got it. My original post has been edited. That could be clearer on TBA. Does Dean's List Finalist qualify a team for the Championship, or did they get there on a wildcard?
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Within the North Carolina District:

3196 has yet to receive a blue banner, but they won Rookie All Star in 2010, and had a Dean's List Finalist in 2012. They won the Gracious Professionalism Award in 2016, and their robots aren't bad at all. Definitely deserving of a win IMO.
Thanks, hopefully this year is our year! I know I'm putting forth more than 100% effort this year, especially since I'm a senior.
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3196 has yet to receive a blue banner, but they won Rookie All Star in 2010, and had a Dean's List Finalist in 2012. They won the Gracious Professionalism Award in 2016, and their robots aren't bad at all. Definitely deserving of a win IMO.
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Thanks, hopefully this year is our year! I know I'm putting forth more than 100% effort this year, especially since I'm a senior.
3196's 2013 bot is also one of my favorite robots ever. Such a gorgeous climber.
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