NeveRest 60 in FRC

[bobbysq]

Originally Posted by Sam Skoglund

"A little disclosure: Any motors you see available in Round 1; you can assume they’ll be legal on your robot."

Does this mean that we will be seeing new motors for FRC this year???

The FTC NeveRest motor is in the parts list...

Minibots confirmed?

Edit: Original text of this post:

http://firstchoicebyandymark.com/fc17-020

On the blog, it stated that motors in FIRST Choice would be legal for 2017. Is it viable for use in FRC, possibly for some very light actuators or with a VP gearbox instead?

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by bobbysq

The FTC NeveRest motor is in the parts list...

Minibots confirmed?

boooooooooooooooooo

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by bobbysq

The FTC NeveRest motor is in the parts list..

eh...

Originally Posted by bobbysq

Minibots confirmed?

[SenorZ]

Originally Posted by bobbysq

The FTC NeveRest motor is in the parts list...

105rpm baby!

[saikiranra]

Originally Posted by bobbysq

The FTC smoke generator is in the parts list...

Minibots confirmed?

FTFY

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by saikiranra

FTFY

Eh it's a new motor that is larger and appears to be higher quality.... so it might not be garbage?

It's also sourced by AM versus whoever sourced the first one, so I trust it's quality a lot more.

[Cog]

Idk about these being smoke generators. The tetrix motors definitely let it out easily. But these can stall for like a minute and stay fully functional.

[Christopher149]

Originally Posted by Cog

...smoke generators...

I have to assume the OP who brought it up didn't remember the 2011 motors as Tetrix motors, just as "FTC" motors, and now that an "FTC" motor is coming to FRC, has a bad but vague memory.

I'm told we managed to get smoke from a Neverest 60 (I wasn't in the room), but that was from having too-long face mounting screws, and it still works fine.

[bobbysq]

Originally Posted by Christopher149

I have to assume the OP who brought it up didn't remember the 2011 motors as Tetrix motors, just as "FTC" motors, and now that an "FTC" motor is coming to FRC, has a bad but vague memory.

I was under the impression that minibots were to be made only of FTC legal parts, and this motor is primarily used in FTC. However, I assume if minibots were to come back, AndyMark would have been briefed by FIRST to stock more FTC supplies, and they'd be staying quiet on this thread.

I was not around for the 2011 game, nor have I read the manual, I just watched the reveal video.

[Christopher149]

Originally Posted by bobbysq

I was under the impression that minibots were to be made only of FTC legal parts, and this motor is primarily used in FTC. However, I assume if minibots were to come back, AndyMark would have been briefed by FIRST to stock more FTC supplies, and they'd be staying quiet on this thread.

I was not around for the 2011 game, nor have I read the manual, I just watched the reveal video.

Minibots were made of FTC legal parts, but I don't think the Neverest existed in 2011. Also, the list of FTC-legal parts has greatly expanded, and is now more like mini-FRC than anything.

[Bob Steele]

Originally Posted by Christopher149

Minibots were made of FTC legal parts, but I don't think the Neverest existed in 2011. Also, the list of FTC-legal parts has greatly expanded, and is now more like mini-FRC than anything.

Having worked as a minibot inspector at CMP The ONLY thing from FTC on most minibots were the motors and the batteries.... I believe those were the only FTC parts that was required.... (if you wanted the minibot to have motors that is....) You could use an FTC motor controller and an NXT if you wished along with other FTC/TETRIX parts, sensors and even FTC servos.

Most minibots were completely fabricated from FRC legal parts listed in the minibot rule with the only FTC parts being the motors (allowed 2) and the FTC battery. There were some minibots that were made differently but in the end it was a weight game.... magnets, motors, battery.... some kind of switch or switches to turn on and off.... pretty minimal.

You are correct that the Neverest motor was not available in 2011. Only the Tetrix motor...

[Knufire]

There was a laundry list of materials you were allowed to make minibots out of, quoted below.

Originally Posted by 2011 FRC Game Manual: R92

The following items are the only permitted materials for use on the MINIBOTS:

A. TETRIX components that are not in violation of any other rules, (Tetrix components are listed in Approved Tetrix Parts at www.usfirst.org/frc/competitionmanual),
B. no more than two motors (PN W739083/W739023) and an unlimited number of Tetrix servos),
C. no more than one 12V rechargeable NiMH battery pack identical to those supplied in the FTC kit of parts (PN W739057) except the 20A fuse may be replaced with an equivalent type of lower amperage,
D. No more than one HiTechnic DC motor controllers,
E. No more than one NXT controller with the Bluetooth functionality disabled,
F. Polycarbonate,
G. Polycarbonate glue,
H. Raw welding rod, aluminum sheet, 90° angle, u-channel, tube, bar, that is not sold in preperforated or pre-punched form.
I. rivets,
J. non-metallic rope or cord,
K. wire nuts, solder, and crimps,
L. cable ties,
M. limit switches,
N. no more than two common household light switches,
O. electrical hookup wire,
P. non-slip pad,
Q. PVC or CPVC pipe and fittings,
R. PVC cement or cleaner,
S. Mechanical fasteners (e.g. screws, bolts, etc),
T. Loctite or similar thread-locking product,
U. Rubber bands,
V. Surgical tubing,
W. Electrical tape and shrink tubing,
X. PWM extension cables,
Y. Universal security clips to hold the PWM connectors together,
Z. Hook and loop fastener (may not be used as tape),
AA. Magnets,
BB. NXT compatible sensors and related connectors/cables,
CC. Grease, and
DD. Non-functional decorations.

Non-slip pad was literally anything marketed as non-slip pad.