[FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts

[nickmcski]

Originally Posted by marshall

Does anyone know when I'll be able to download the firmware for the OM5P-AC radio?

I think it will be included in the FRC 2017 Update Suite

[Lireal]

Originally Posted by marshall

Does anyone know when I'll be able to download the firmware for the OM5P-AC radio?

https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...hreadid=152971

[FrankJ]

Originally Posted by BotDesigner

The weight difference between 4" plaction wheels with tread (0.55 pounds) and 6" plaction wheels with tread (0.84 pounds) is 0.29 pounds. With six wheels this means a 1.74 pound total weight difference.

Of course you will not need wheels if it is an air game.

[PayneTrain]

The new q&a system will be supported by the small item. Powered by Google Assistant, your team's very own talking 8 ball can be shaken when asking a question about this year's rules, with Frank Merricks voice responding to you in real time!

Hopefully they fixed all of the bugs since the beta, especially the one where the ball kept responding with "yes, chute door" no matter what you asked.

[BigJ]

Originally Posted by PayneTrain

The new q&a system will be supported by the small item. Powered by Google Assistant, your team's very own talking 8 ball can be shaken when asking a question about this year's rules, with Frank Merricks voice responding to you in real time!

Hopefully they fixed all of the bugs since the beta, especially the one where the ball kept responding with "yes, chute door" no matter what you asked.

"Q&A, can my robot get off the train rails?"
"As much as a baguette is a non-powered signaling device"

[Caleb Sykes]

Here are some things that might be bad to put in a tote:
a mouse, a hamster, a frog, an insect, a glass trinket, soup, a small ice sculpture, C4, chocolate, a goldfish, a plant, something battery operated that needs to stay powered at all times, something that is volatile when exposed to air, or a really strong magnet

[bdaroz]

Originally Posted by Caleb Sykes

Here are some things that might be bad to put in a tote:
a mouse, a hamster, a frog, an insect, a glass trinket, soup, a small ice sculpture, C4, chocolate, a goldfish, a plant, something battery operated that needs to stay powered at all times, something that is volatile when exposed to air, or a really strong magnet

I think a few of them can be ruled out... you know... safety and all.

[Jacob Bendicksen]

Thinking out loud...seems like there's a chance that a game piece won't be part of the KoP, so what games could be played without game pieces?

The game could be played entirely with field elements that teams have to build or be based entirely off of robot position/actions without game pieces...thoughts?

[Lireal]

Originally Posted by Jacob Bendicksen

Thinking out loud...seems like there's a chance that a game piece won't be part of the KoP, so what games could be played without game pieces?

The game could be played entirely with field elements that teams have to build or be based entirely off of robot position/actions without game pieces...thoughts?

Most game pieces will fit inside of the bin with the rest of the donated parts, so just because there isn't a different package doesn't mean there is no game piece.

[GeeTwo]

Originally Posted by Jacob Bendicksen

...what games could be played without game pieces??

Robo-'res'lin'!

Edit (obviously):

Originally Posted by Dwight_2

Slow clap initiated..... and it could be a game where we manipulate the field itself.

Thanks. Manipulating the field elements was a key feature of the game from our in-team speculation that we used for a fall build -- we had "steam valves" for the robots to operate which would trigger motion of field elements.

[Dwight_2]

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

Robo-'res'lin'!

Slow clap initiated..... and it could be a game where we manipulate the field itself.

[gegozi]

I agree that the first item, the 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs. is a tote. This is supported by the 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 30 lbs. item for rookies.

2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs. is probably some metal, possibly like last year.

I could see how the 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. item is a battery, since rookies get an item of identical dimensions.

The "very small item" is a mystery. I think there are two main reasons why the dimensions are not specified. If FIRST gives us the dimensions before kickoff to help with transportation, then they think that this item will not be significantly difficult to transport. But I think that this lack of information is a hint. They basically told us that it would be easy to transport, but that specifying exact dimensions would make the item easy to figure out. Based on this, I think the item must be a ball, or something with well-known dimensions.
There is also another possible interpretation. FIRST may think that we don't need the size before kickoff, and knowing them, they give us as little information as possible.
I think that another possibility that we should consider is that regardless of the size of the "very small object", it is relatively heavy (possibly 10 pounds or greater). FIRST knows that we are in high school, so they want to limit the weight of each item in the kickoff kit to about 50 pounds.

This "very small item" is shrouded in mystery, and this is my opinion. What do you think?



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[TurboTech]

Maybe it's a FRC legal lipo battery for the secondary flying robot

[cadandcookies]

Originally Posted by TurboTech

Maybe it's a FRC legal lipo battery for the secondary flying robot

If they are, then I expect somewhere around 1000%+ uptick in fires at build spaces around three months from now.

[Monochron]

Originally Posted by cadandcookies

If they are, then I expect somewhere around 1000%+ uptick in fires at build spaces around three months from now.

Hey man, the winter can get pretty cold. Wouldn't mind a nice heartwarming toxic fire.