How to get gears fast

[Flashback0902]

Go to the enemy player station and beg for a gear until they give you one or you get a foul. Or you can cooperate with the other team before the match and give gears to each other.

[ImpeachedCat629]

I believe one way, which most teams are probably thinking of, is to be capable of receiving gears from the loading station and get across the field in 4-6 seconds with being able to place the gear in at most 3 seconds

[pipsqueaker]

Originally Posted by ImpeachedCat629

I believe one way, which most teams are probably thinking of, is to be capable of receiving gears from the loading station and get across the field in 4-6 seconds with being able to place the gear in at most 3 seconds

This estimate seems very optimistic to me, especially when you consider defense. In fact I think gear bots will be a very attractive target for defense even during qualification matches this year

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by pipsqueaker

This estimate seems very optimistic to me, especially when you consider defense. In fact I think gear bots will be a very attractive target for defense even during qualification matches this year

Not only that its back and forth ..... possibly 6 sec +2 but another 6sec +2 and another 6sec + 2 before another cycle... thats 24 seconds not to mention defense and sight.

In weeks 1 and 2 , I expect a dedicated good gear bot to place about 3 gears max successfully before endgame climb....

later season Top teams might be able to 7 or 8 before climb

[Brandon_L]

the noodle agreement all over

[Akash Shah]

I honestly feel that a floor pickup could be the fastest way to get a gear. Also, opens up the opportunity for a *cough* 3 gear autonomous .

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by Flashback0902

Go to the enemy player station and beg for a gear until they give you one or you get a foul. Or you can cooperate with the other team before the match and give gears to each other.

Begging Robot: Please give me a gear.

Gear Ninja: NO GEARS FOR YOU!

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[Ubiquity]

Originally Posted by Flashback0902

Go to the enemy player station and beg for a gear until they give you one or you get a foul. Or you can cooperate with the other team before the match and give gears to each other.

Isn't going into the opponent loading station a violation?

[engunneer]

Originally Posted by Ubiquity

Isn't going into the opponent loading station a violation?

only if their robot is present. it's worth knowing these rules.

you can't sit in your opponent's key (shooting area near boiler) for 5 seconds, but the limit on loading zone is based on hitting an opponent.

[SenorZ]

Collusion:
Each alliance agrees to scoot the 18 gears into the opponent's driver station. They now belong to the opponent alliance.

[bdaroz]

Originally Posted by Flashback0902

Go to the enemy player station and beg for a gear until they give you one or you get a foul. Or you can cooperate with the other team before the match and give gears to each other.

Originally Posted by Ubiquity

Isn't going into the opponent loading station a violation?

The only rule I can find applies to being in the KEY, not the LOADING STATION. Also the loading rules aren't ALLIANCE color specific.

This also doesn't seem to break the conduct rules (eg C01/C02) as it's not used to 'throw' a match, if the action is reciprocated (eg both teams can use the other team's loading station).

I would also expect Q&A to nuke this.

[markmcgary]

I expect some red or blue tape to be added to the gears. You can only score your alliance color gears. Reminds me of the noodles.

[engunneer]

Originally Posted by bdaroz

The only rule I can find applies to being in the KEY, not the LOADING STATION. Also the loading rules aren't ALLIANCE color specific.

This also doesn't seem to break the conduct rules (eg C01/C02) as it's not used to 'throw' a match, if the action is reciprocated (eg both teams can use the other team's loading station).

I would also expect Q&A to nuke this.

If one team is asking the other team on a different alliance to change how they play to make it easier for everyone, that is specifically against C02 and C03. I do expect Q&A to address this.

[rlance]

In the heat of battle the other alliance might slide a gear into your robot if they aren't paying attention to what color you are.

[Kartoffee]

THE RESURRECTION OF THE NOODLE ALLIANCE!!

In all reality though, good idea. I think that FIRST won't like the collusion, because it means that some teams won't have heard the idea and will be punished for it.

While I hope to use this myself, I don't think it will be allowed.

Good luck all!