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Is it required to use 2017 control system?

I don't feel like reimaging the RoboRIO, installing other C++ stuff, etc.
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Re: Is it required to use 2017 control system?

I dunno, take a look at this year's rules.
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Re: Is it required to use 2017 control system?

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I don't feel like reimaging the RoboRIO, installing other C++ stuff, etc.
You are going to be in for a bad time, my friend.
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Re: Is it required to use 2017 control system?

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I don't feel like reimaging the RoboRIO, installing other C++ stuff, etc.
If re-imaging the roborio and installing some updates is too much work, you're in for a rather rude awakening when you see just how much more work is needed to make a functioning FRC robot in these 6 (now 3) weeks.
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Re: Is it required to use 2017 control system?

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Only if you want to compete in 2017.
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Re: Is it required to use 2017 control system?

Sorry folks, but I can't pass this up. . .

Was this question posted by RyZeRun, or by LazyRun?
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Re: Is it required to use 2017 control system?

If you do become interested in updating everything, 4513 is willing to help you guys. Feel free to message me and ill get something set up.
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Re: Is it required to use 2017 control system?

I will remark that it is highly inconvenient that you have to update everything to the 2017 versions during build season. Our team has recently moved to a persistent framework from which we build all our code, and updating all of our legacy code to work with the new versions of all the software is a huge job. It'd be lovely if this stuff could be released a few months earlier...
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I will remark that it is highly inconvenient that you have to update everything to the 2017 versions during build season. Our team has recently moved to a persistent framework from which we build all our code, and updating all of our legacy code to work with the new versions of all the software is a huge job. It'd be lovely if this stuff could be released a few months earlier...
You can access development versions of WPILib from their github page and from their maven.

If you want even more stuff, you can always apply to become a beta testing team.
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If you want even more stuff, you can always apply to become a beta testing team.
Remember that if you do, you must open source your code before the start of the new season, or it will not be legal to use during competition.
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updating all of our legacy code to work with the new versions of all the software is a huge job.
Hmmm.... I don't recall our team having to do much, if anything. What changed that requires updating legacy code?

I know when we went from crio to roborio, there was a big change. However, I don't recall our programmers complaining about code not running on updated roborios.
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Hmmm.... I don't recall our team having to do much, if anything. What changed that requires updating legacy code?

I know when we went from crio to roborio, there was a big change. However, I don't recall our programmers complaining about code not running on updated roborios.
That's curious, because 2016 code pretty explicitly does not run on 2017 roborios for us. Lots of dependencies break.
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That's curious, because 2016 code pretty explicitly does not run on 2017 roborios for us. Lots of dependencies break.
Should be mostly CANTalon and CameraServer dependencies, no? Those are easily fixed.
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Should be mostly CANTalon and CameraServer dependencies, no? Those are easily fixed.
For teams that use Command-Based C++, the changes are significant. Our team spent several frustrating hours getting a Command-Based C++ project built and running. The biggest hurdle was the fact that ScreenSteps has not been updated for 2017.
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For teams that use Command-Based C++, the changes are significant. Our team spent several frustrating hours getting a Command-Based C++ project built and running. The biggest hurdle was the fact that ScreenSteps has not been updated for 2017.
It has. http://wpilib.screenstepslive.com/s/4485
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