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Rule K3?

Is K3 the most ambiguous rule I've ever seen - probably not. But it sure does have a lot of ambiguity. So here is the email I already sent to FIRST. I'll post here if I get an answer before it is answered in an official update:

1) Regarding rule K3:
We need a much better definition of what is an “additional component” for the purposes of determining if it’s cost is counted.
a. Are “additional component” to be bought from MSC or Small Parts only? Is that what defines an “additional component”
b. Or is it similar to the additional hardware list from the past? If so, then what is the exact list?
c. Does it include items on the “restricted parts list”. If so, then if it says “Any amount”, then do we have to count it’s cost?
d. Are adhesives or glues to be considered for cost?
e. How about lubricants?
f. Any free fasteners at all?

2) Regarding rule K3:
a. For the purpose of counting labor cost, how do you define who is a team member? Is anyone who makes parts for you from your sponsor company considered part of the team?
b. How about if sponsors agree to donate free machining for your team – are they considered part of your team? Or do we have to ask them what they think the labor would have been if done for someone else?
c. How about anyone else who donates their time and makes your parts for you and doesn’t charge you?
d. How about if they are not official members but come to your shop to make your parts and don’t charge you – does that make them a team member? If not, what does?
e. How about if they don’t make parts, but just provide a repair service like welding, without charge? How about if the service is done for free and on site.
f. How about labor done by competition machine shop at a competition?
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