Star Wars Vs. Star Trek

[LBK Rules]

OK, it's time to set a few things straight...

Transphasic Torpedo

Offical:
A weapon for which the Borg had no defense as of 2378. The transphasic torpedo was developed in an alternate timeline in which the U.S.S. Voyager was lost for 23 years rather than seven. In that timeline, Admiral Kathryn Janeway of the year 2404 came back to 2378 to provide her former starship with this technology to repel the Borg while passing through a transwarp hub. One or two transphasic torpedoes fired at a Borg Cube would instantly annihilate it.

My Take:
TPTs could really turn SSDs and DTs in multi-tons of space junk. Borg Cubes were vituraly indestructable to Federation weponry during the late 2360's.

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Transwarp Coil

Offical:
Propulsion component that allows Borg ships to travel through transwarp conduits, at much greater speed than warp.

My Take:
I guess this would be a "hyperdrive motivator" is SW.

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Cloaking Device

Offical:
Technology of Romulan origin, first described in 2266, that can generate an energy screen to render a target object — usually a spacecraft — relatively invisible to sensors. Due to their immense power drain, cloaking generators have usually prohibited simultaneous use of other major systems such as weaponry, shields or warp drive. Although common to Klingon ships as well since the short-lived alliance with Romulus in the 2260s, Federation vessels have agrred to forego use of cloaks under the Treaty of Algeron, except in the case of the U.S.S. Defiant, which utilizes such a device by special arrangement.

My Take:
We know that "Cloaking Devices" exist in the canon SW movies (ESB). We do know a "CD" can't be small enough to fit on the MF.
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Well, I think the final take on this is :

The USS Voyager (SD 54973.4) vs. Executor (ROTJ)
Voyager would destory the Executor like it was a squirel.

[AlbertW]

impossible to compare warp vs hyperdrive cause, though it appears that hyperdrive lets you get to more places in a shorter time than warp, it also appears that the star wars galaxy is smaller.

impossible to compare weaponry/shielding cause they've never been put up to eachother

and i like trek cause theres more of it. my mind gets bored waiting 10+ years for a star wars movie

[Blacknight]

You could read a book...

[Patrick Duffy]

Borg Cubes are also much smaller and less defended than star destroyers.

Look at RoTJ.

Both Fleets are firing at each other from "point blank range", and sustain massive amounts of damage before anything is destroyed, with exception being the superlaser cannon on the death star (which would easily destroy anything in Star Trek that it hit).

Those torpedos may be nice, but what are you going to do? Even if you manage to knock some ships out, the fleet will still remain for the most part in tact, and will be shooting at you.

It is my observation that the Star Trek crews don't have nearly as much all out war experience as Star Wars, especially regarding troop engagements. Most of the fighting is more or less squad based. In Star Wars, on the other hand, battles are usually fought on a grand scale, with thosands of ships vs thosands of ships, or hundreds of thosands of troops vs hundreds of thosands of troops.

[EddieMcD]

On the supernova thing, two words: Tox Uthat. A small gem that has the power to make a sun explode. Talk about size efficient. Better than any Superlaser.

[Specialagentjim]

Originally posted by EddieMcD
On the supernova thing, two words: Tox Uthat. A small gem that has the power to make a sun explode. Talk about size efficient. Better than any Superlaser.

Gee, I seem to recall those schemes foiled pretty easily by an old guy (Picard) and a bunch of misplaced rocks...

Hmm..

[Gabe Salas Jr.]

First, I would like to say that I am a huge fan of both Star Wars and Star Trek. Though I have to mention one thing. To date, Star Wars came out with only five movies, whereas Star Trek came out with ten movies. Star Trek has also has five television series, where as Star Wars does not have any. Books, there are a lot of books to read from both Star Wars and Star Trek. Star Wars probably came out with more toys and video games than Star Trek. I just do not want to get anymore technical than this.

[Jay W.]

1) So, we have to go to an alternate timeline to find a weapon powerful enough to stand an SSD? SSD's have hundreds of turbolaser batteries, ion cannons, proton torperdoe, and concussion missile launcher, of which I'm sure are capable of intercepting a missile. Turbolaser batteries are large enough to envelop an entire X-wing starfighter, so I'm sure it would be powerful enough to wipe out a missile.

2) A wise man of Sci-fi once said that relying on magic crystals was a last ditch effort, need I say more?

3) Cloaking devices were never displayed in any of the Star Wars movies. In the one of the novel series, Imperial Admiral Zsinj was able to cloak one ship, by placing sattelites around it that effectively cloaked a small area, but this device was destroyed easily by destroying a couple of the sattelites. So, no cloaking technology was ever really discovered that actually worked...

[Madison]

(I'd like to take a moment to remind you that you're arguing the merits of fictitious environments. ...a bit like when 4 year olds say, "I can fly and your superpowers are useless against me, and I'm indestructible, so ha!" and scamper away.)

With that said, my post brings to light some historical fact for the misinformed.

Star Wars Animated Series'

Edit: Yes, I'm bitter *and* old.

[Michael Murphy]

While we're discussing the animated series, he're the Star Trek one that crazybear missed:
Star Trek: The Animated Series

[AlbertW]

its like the bastard child that we all know about, but aren't willing to admit exists... just leave it be

[Patrick Duffy]

Star Wars had cloaking devices, just not in the movies. They showed up in a few of the games, and in the books.
The Empire had a prototype TIE with cloaking. It looked very similar to the TIE interceptor, but it had 3 "wings". Actually, in that particular game, the Empire cloaked a research facility, a SSD and many SDs.

[Gabe Salas Jr.]

I guess I stand corrected! I was not aware of the animated series for both Star Wars and Star Trek.

[Blacknight]

For cloaking both the Slave I and the Ig-2000 have cloaking devices on them, and they're not even a capitol class ship.

[Jay W.]

Actually....no, IG 2000 nor Slave 1 have cloaking devices. In the Star Wars universe they are sorta scarce and its rare technology, they cloaking device mentioned above was in a game, wasn't it? The TIE Patrick mentioned was a TIE Phantom, which was in the Dark Forces II game, I believe, and was the only cloakable TIE craft, they were very expensive to make.