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I agree with Bill Beatty on all points and would like to add:
I have engineers who have been on our team for 6 or more years. As far as I know they are great people who have dedicated 3+ months a year to our team. Now I have to say that what I have seen of you is great but.... I am comfortable with what they do and proud of how they work with our kids. I would question any negative results of any background check on our engineers. I don't like the idea that I will have to administer the screening by collecting ss#s and waiting for a green or red response. I can't imagine having to tell an engineer who I know very well that he/she got a negative response and cannot be a mentor. We have rules in place and we (the high school teachers) make sure that situations don't happen that can be an opportunity for problems. I don't agree with this new policy. Steve Yasick Team 85 |
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Here's a question I posted several weeks ago and received no response. I thought I'd post it again since this topic seems alive again.
What guarantee does FIRST have that there aren't adults who help the team dodging the background check? How would they find out? If they found out, what will FIRST do if an adult who has been helping a team has not had the check run? |
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We've been told by US FIRST that there are no exceptions...anyone else hearing the same thing? Jim |
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I like the idea of allowing the schools involved to come up with their own vetting process. If they decide to use state databases of sexual predators (and let's be honest folks...that's what's at issue here) to check out mentors, then so be it...but to do this at the national level....putting money into someone's pocket to pretty much do the same thing is outlandish. If my security clearance isn't good enough to prove I'm trustworthy...then I guess I'll just not be able to participate in the reindeer games. See you on the high ground! Jim |
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Then again, they may also turn you down because you looked at them funny. They are under no contract to actually perform the background check on you unless you or someone else has paid them. Not just over a SSN, for any reason other than: Ethnicity, Gender, Height, Weight, Religion.. and all those other little protected things.
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On the main page of the TIMS section of FIRST, you can find this:
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This was to be my 6th year in FIRST...I really do not want to have to give up such a wonderful program over something like this. Last edited by Kevin Kolodziej : 08-12-2003 at 19:29. |
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And... it's not US FIRST anymore. It hasn't been for several years, but people still refer to FIRST by the wrong name. |
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Hi, all! One aspect of this Volunteer Screening that FIRST has not addressed is liability issues for the team leaders that will be gathering the information. I as a team leader nor do any other team leaders (teachers etc ) want to take on any liability if something goes amiss in the process. In speaking with my other team leaders, we do not wish to hold on to people's personal information, (if they fill out the application). None of the team leaders have any training on doing personal reference interviews either. This is another aspect for team leaders to consider.
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I am adamantly opposed to mentor background checks. As Ben Franklin said, "If people are willing to trade a little bit of freedom for a little more safety, then they don't deserve freedom or safety". As already stated, who decides what is acceptable and unacceptable? What are the "criteria"? What about someone that smokes cigarettes, isn't that a bad influence? If sex offenders are their concern, then go look then go match the mentor list to the public list and be done with it. I know I will pass the check, but many people here are missing the point.
Most people connected with FIRST are idealists to some extent trying to make the world a better place. This for me is a big step backward. I will not voluntarily submit to a background check and if some "authority-whoever that is" asks me to leave, then so be it. Sincerely, Brian Beatty |
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What do you suggest I do? And giving my SSN is not an acceptable answer. Kev |
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