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Unread 07-11-2003, 23:29
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Misinformation warning

Dont trust what I say intil the season starts. My dad, the infamous Dave Lavery, will probably use me for misinformation about the upcoming game, so Im jsut giving every1 a fair warning. Ill post it anyway, because you never know what might be useful or true.
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Unread 07-11-2003, 23:32
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Soooo

by saying we cant trust what you post

is that misinformation

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0_o

May God have mercy on all of us....

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This just in: The latest NASA research vessel has just crashed into Palo Alto, California. Reports of damage and injuries are still coming in, but it is believed that Ken Leung, long time participant in the FIRST Robotics Competition, was the only fatality.
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This just in: The latest NASA research vessel has just crashed into Palo Alto, California. Reports of damage and injuries are still coming in, but it is believed that Ken Leung, long time participant in the FIRST Robotics Competition, was the only fatality.

NOOOO!!! Not KEN!! !Eeeek.. sucks for the research vessel too
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There is a lil' Lavery~?!?!?!?!?!

0_o

May God have mercy on all of us....

-_-!!!
Mercy on us? He's the one who has Dave as a dad.


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P.S. Jokeing aside, how cool would it be to have Dave as a dad?

P.P.S. In case this gets to my dad somehow, I'd like him to know I still love him!! (but not quite as much as Fluffy)
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Soooo

by saying we cant trust what you post

is that misinformation

?!
One would also have to wonder if, by admitting that we can't trust his post regarding misinformation, he knew we would all have to then question whether it was the original post that was false, or the post was correct but the original information behind the post was false.

Then, of course knowing that if I told him something even accidentally that it might end up on this board, I might tell him that everything I might say in the future would be false. Knowing that, he might want to give you a warning that anything I were to let slip, and he were to pass on, would be suspect. I could use that to ensure that everything I said would not be believed, and therefore not passed on. Or if it were passed on it would automatically be interpreted as misinformation, and everyone would assume the inverse was actually true. But knowing that, I could intentionally tell him misinformation, knowing that it would be interpreted as misinformation by him and inverted, and he would then unintentionally post the truth, which would be interpreted as misinformation and - knowing it was misinformation - the inverse (which was actually the inverted truth) would then be revealed to everyone. But since you now know that is possible, I would never do that. But I could just tell him misinformation, and he wold interpret it as such, and then post the truth, but everyone else would think that is was inverted truth and not believe it but believe the inverse. So then they would actually be believing the truth. But we already know that I would never leak out anything true, and since I know the potential for the above scenario, I would never let it happen, so everything that I would tell him would have to be real information only, which would then be interpreted as misinformation, inverted by him and posted as real information, misinterpreted as misinformation by you and inverted to be believed as real information, but since you know I would never reveal real information it would then be believed to be misinformation and inverted again into actual misinformation and incorrectly believed to be real information. Or not.

How do you know that he is really even one of my kids anyway?

-dave (just wanted to see if I could make Wetzel's brain explode again)





I am just reminded of the following exchange from The Princess Bride:

MAN IN BLACK: All right: where is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right and who is dead.
VIZZINI: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet, or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I'm not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool; you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
MAN IN BLACK: You've made your decision then?
VIZZINI: Not remotely. Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows. And Australia is entirely peopled with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me. So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.
MAN IN BLACK: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
VIZZINI: Wait till I get going! Where was I?
MAN IN BLACK: Australia.
VIZZINI: Yes -- Australia, and you must have suspected I would have known the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
MAN IN BLACK: You're just stalling now.
VIZZINI: You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong. So, you could have put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you. So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard which means you must have studied. And in studying, you must have learned that man is mortal so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
MAN IN BLACK: You're trying to trick me into giving away something -- it won't work --
VIZZINI: It has worked -- you've given everything away -- I know where the poison is.
MAN IN BLACK: Then make your choice.
VIZZINI: I will. And I choose -- Wait! -- what in the world can that be?
MAN IN BLACK: What? Where? I don't see anything.
VIZZINI: Oh, well, I-I could have sworn I saw something. No matter.
MAN IN BLACK: What's so funny?
VIZZINI: I'll tell you in a minute. First, let's drink -- me from my glass, and you from yours.
MAN IN BLACK: You guessed wrong.
VIZZINI: You only think I guessed wrong - that's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned. You fool. You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia." But only slightly less well known is this: "Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line."

Vizzini laughs and roars and cackles and whoops and is in all ways quite cheery until he falls over dead.
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Re: Misinformation warning

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One would also have to wonder if, by admitting that we can't trust his post regarding misinformation, he knew we would all have to then question whether it was the original post that was false, or the post was correct but the original information behind the post was false.

...

How do you know that he is really even one of my kids anyway?

-dave (just wanted to see if I could make Wetzel's brain explode again)
...

One year later, I'm reading this and.. and..

My brain hurts.
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Ahhah The game is going to involve giving Dave Lavery a better sense of fashion.
Now wait just a minute! Anyone that old, who still has that much hair, can wear whatever they want. This year I am thinking of growing a beard, combing it up, and cutting out eyeholes (I can't look much worse than the Donald).

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One would also have to wonder if, by admitting that we can't trust his post regarding misinformation, he knew we would all have to then question whether it was the original post that was false, or the post was correct but the original information behind the post was false.

Blah... Blah... /Blah

How do you know that he is really even one of my kids anyway?

-dave (just wanted to see if I could make Wetzel's brain explode again)
Yeah, one year later, and the logic in that quote is blowing minds over here at 617 like bad circuit breakers on our third robot (btw, see our autopsy of the blown circuit breaker in the tech discussions forum under kit of parts: parts specs.)
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Yeah, one year later, and the logic in that quote is blowing minds over here at 617 like bad circuit breakers on our third robot (btw, see our autopsy of the blown circuit breaker in the tech discussions forum under kit of parts: parts specs.)

I took six semesters of symbolic logic courses in undergraduate and grad school. If you want a real fun exercize, map out the logic constructs of the original paragraph. It actually does flow, and makes literal logical sense. Trust me - with a face like this, would I lie?

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Trust me - with a face like this, would I lie?

-dave
Silly Dave, you forgot the image. No problem, I'll get it for you.

Now, with a face like this would he lie?

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Silly Dave, you forgot the image. No problem, I'll get it for you.

Now, with a face like this would he lie?

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And I actually thought the title of this thread was all about Heidi and her evil photoshopped visions.
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