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[Erin Rapacki]

Depends on your definition of 'lick,' and what you count as 'the tootsie roll center'

According to my definition: not putting tootsie pop in whole mouth but licking each side one at a time, and the second i tasted chocolate on one side... i've struck gold

512 licks... 512

But there are so many variables: the rate at which the amount of saliva in my mouth was decreasing at, how much pressure i put on the pop...

the world may never know,

in Atlanta; we should take some statistical data on this

[Joe Matt]

I've always thought it was 384 licks to the center.

[Rich Wong]

Originally posted by JosephM
I've always thought it was 384 licks to the center.

No, Erin is correct, it must be a 2^n quantity.

512 is correct; 1 1111 1111; or 1FF hex.

If her licks were concentrated on two sides it would be 128 licks; FF hex.
If her licks were concentrated on one side, it would be 64 licks; EF hex.

Binary rules!

[scuba_sm]

Originally Posted by Rich Wong

No, Erin is correct, it must be a 2^n quantity.

512 is correct; 1 1111 1111; or 1FF hex.

If her licks were concentrated on two sides it would be 128 licks; FF hex.
If her licks were concentrated on one side, it would be 64 licks; EF hex.

Binary rules!

Well, if we can assume that a tootsie pop has a circular cross section, and that the tongue would be tangental to the surface of the pop, wouldn't it follow that it would take an infinite number of licks to reach the center on all sides, since you would have to lick each point numerous times?

Sorry, Calculus is ruining my brain. *twitch* The area enclosed by a deltoid? What? NOOOOO!

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by scuba_sm

Well, if we can assume that a tootsie pop has a circular cross section, and that the tongue would be tangental to the surface of the pop, wouldn't it follow that it would take an infinite number of licks to reach the center on all sides, since you would have to lick each point numerous times?

Sorry, Calculus is ruining my brain. *twitch* The area enclosed by a deltoid? What? NOOOOO!

Well, to solve this problem we would have to define exactly what a "lick" is.

If a lick is an act of placing your tounge and then moving it on the pop, then I have a simple answer for you.

One lick is the answer... How is this possible you ask??

Simple, put the tootsie roll pop on/in a "spin pop" device and never take your tounge off the pop, and just push the spin pop button to rotate the tootsie roll pop. Presto.. one defined "lick" and you're to the center.

Now to take this even a step further, lets take the pop itself.. You can never really reach the "center" of a sphere if it has a stick in the middle of it!!!

So, it is truely impossible; if you don't agree with the answer that the one lick solution works that is!!!

[Billfred]

Not to revive an old topic, but we might as well evaluate what Dave's posted in this thread to see if something he mentioned wound up somehow connecting to FIRST Frenzy.

First, the big long reasoning post...it could be argued that he was trying to drive our minds into a mind-numbing state and get us speculating--a frenzied state.

Second, the "my work here is done" post. Consider the game--once you got on the bar, you're done...well, except for those little things, such as blocking the goal or monkeying to block another robot. Consider that Dave then posted and did other little posts.

Finally, the "storming the castle" post. If we define the bar as a the inner part of a castle, then we've got a mess of a fortress this year, don't we? I mean, big huge stairs (in robot terms, at least), tremendous stakes blocking your path, the varying traction of the surfaces (I didn't even notice that until Atlanta)...it's quite the protection. Oh, and the guards, if you define the other alliance as the keepers of the castle. (Yeah, that's a stretch...they think the same of you.)

I sense the need to look into this further....(devilish grin)

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by Billfred

...blah blah blah...

Finally, the "storming the castle" post. If we define the bar as a the inner part of a castle, then we've got a mess of a fortress this year, don't we? I mean, big huge stairs (in robot terms, at least), tremendous stakes blocking your path, the varying traction of the surfaces (I didn't even notice that until Atlanta)...it's quite the protection. Oh, and the guards, if you define the other alliance as the keepers of the castle. (Yeah, that's a stretch...they think the same of you.)

You missed the obvious connection. Look at the shape of the battlements on a castle wall. Then look at the profile of the top of the goals from this year. Notice any similarity?

All of my clues are clues.

Whether they are good clues or not may be a matter of debate...

-dave

[Max Lobovsky]

So Billfred was actually right with those connections? They seemed a bit of a stretch. Please give us some more interesting ones like that this year.

[JVN]

Originally Posted by dlavery

You missed the obvious connection. Look at the shape of the battlements on a castle wall. Then look at the profile of the top of the goals from this year. Notice any similarity?

All of my clues are clues.

Whether they are good clues or not may be a matter of debate...

-dave

Dave --
If I had your kind of credibility, and the whole FIRST community hanging on my every word, I would have sooooooooo much fun. I'd never be bored.

Admiringly,
John



Edit:
Sean, you find yourself in this very same position simply by virtue of your relation to Dave.
Enjoy, young one. God Speed in your quest. *salutes*
/edit

[Lil' Lavery]

Pfft
of course he incripts sectret messages within his posts, who doesnt? Not even only in his posts, but everyone elses,
like heidi's....
You just gotta keep searching
get the info
once youve obtained it plan ahead
never tell anyone else
show the world how to play the game

the secret to success!

[MissInformation]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Pfft
of course he incripts sectret messages within his posts, who doesnt? Not even only in his posts, but everyone elses,
like heidi's....
You just gotta keep searching
get the info
once youve obtained it plan ahead
never tell anyone else
show the world how to play the game

the secret to success!

Like mine? Yeah, like mine. Like this incripted SECRET MESSAGE . Uh-huh...

Heidi

<===========>
... and most of all I would like to thank Koko Ed, without his encouragement, I wouldn't be where I am today...

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Pfft of course he incripts sectret messages within his posts, who doesnt? Not even only in his posts, but everyone elses, like heidi's.... You just gotta keep searching get the info once youve obtained it plan ahead
never tell anyone else show the world how to play the game

the secret to success!

Nice one.. Overdone in terms of FIRST, but nice.. Hehehehe.. but is it really true?
Have to wait till 2005 I guess....

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by JVN

Dave --
If I had your kind of credibility, and the whole FIRST community hanging on my every word, I would have sooooooooo much fun. I'd never be bored.

You mean having fun like pointing out this pad of paper, that I left sitting on the bleachers at IRI right behind you and Baker and Morella?



Just think, all you had to do was grab it and flip over to page 3 and see all those ever-so-interesting sketches...

There is no Opportunity like one that is missed.

-dave

[JVN]

Originally Posted by dlavery

There is no Opportunity like one that is missed.

-dave

Dave,
Honestly... you believe an entire weekend went by without us seeing that pad? C'mon man... we're more resourceful than that.

Where was the pad during dinner Saturday night? Oops.

I'm already designing my next robot,
John

edit:
Wow... good picture btw.
/edit

[mtaman02]

I go on vacation for a few weeks and 2005's game has been suposedly left in the open for few to see and i wasnt around dave can you mistakenly mail me that page 3 so i can send it back to u for a non-return address or something =) it should get back to u in a few days