Reputation 101

[Jeff Waegelin]

Originally Posted by monsieurcoffee

I think it is best left in the hands of board moderators and admins to give negative rep points.

Everyone else should be only allowed to give positive points.

I disagree. I think that defeats the purpose of the reputation system. Moderators and admins should and do have more weight for points, but anyone can give negatives. That's the way it should be.

[David Kelly]

Originally Posted by Jeff Waegelin

I disagree. I think that defeats the purpose of the reputation system. Moderators and admins should and do have more weight for points, but anyone can give negatives. That's the way it should be.

Yeah, I agree. Everybody should have the opportunity to give their input on any topic. There will would be no use for having a reputation system if not everybody can give both positive and negatives. A lot of the admins arent on as much as some other the others on this board.


Its going to take a while for the reps to start working really well in the way its designed for.

[Bduggan04]

Originally Posted by monsieurcoffee

I think it is best left in the hands of board moderators and admins to give negative rep points.

Everyone else should be only allowed to give positive points.

This would only be a good idea if getting a negative response penalized you more than just lowering your rep.

Personally I think it's a good idea. Before, the only way to gauge a member was to be familiar with their posts or look at the number of their posts. Now, their reputation represents the quality of their posts and ideas. I think that this will eventually be a good way to recognize the "upstanding citizens" of CD. Now CD can become a closer and more personal place where you get knocked down for a dumb idea and praised for a stroke of genius, almost like a true family.

[dlavery]

I just noticed a few things:

- I was going to five someone a few reputation points, but a message popped up that said I needed to spread some reputation around before I gave it to this person again. That made me wonder: I know you can see the list of people that have given reputation points to you in the "User CP," but is there a way to see a list of people to whom you have given points? Over time it would be interesting to see if some people show up on a regular basis or not.

- When looking at the list of members in the "Members" section, sorted by "Reputation" I noticed something. Some folks have very high reputations (and therefore presumably a high number of reputation points), and have made hundreds (or even thousands!) of posts. Others have very high reputations with only a few dozen posts. So is there a way to see a members "points per post" ratio?

It is interesting to see who has a very high ratio (e.g. Matt Adams may not post with high frequency, but his ratio sugggests that every single post has high value and is really worth reading), and who has a low one (if I had >1000 posts and only a few reputation points, I would think about whether many of my posts were just irritating drivel that did not contribute to the discussions - either that or I was making WAY TOO MANY really bad jokes ).

-dave

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8 days to go!!!!

[Madison]

Originally Posted by dlavery

I just noticed a few things:

- I was going to five someone a few reputation points, but a message popped up that said I needed to spread some reputation around before I gave it to this person again. That made me wonder: I know you can see the list of people that have given reputation points to you in the "User CP," but is there a way to see a list of people to whom you have given points? Over time it would be interesting to see if some people show up on a regular basis or not.

I asked about this when vB3 was new and Brandon indicated that it's not possible out of the box, so to speak, but that he may be able to accomodate us.

- When looking at the list of members in the "Members" section, sorted by "Reputation" I noticed something. Some folks have very high reputations (and therefore presumably a high number of reputation points), and have made hundreds (or even thousands!) of posts. Others have very high reputations with only a few dozen posts. So is there a way to see a members "points per post" ratio?

Again, there's nothing built in to allow this. Remember, as well, that reputation has accrued only since vB3 was installed, though our post counts have been carried over from the previous version of the software. Because of that, it seems like you can't really learn much from the ratio you're asking about.

[JVN]

Originally Posted by M. Krass

I asked about this when vB3 was new and Brandon indicated that it's not possible out of the box, so to speak, but that he may be able to accomodate us.

I'd love to see this feature as well.
I give out reputation in "spurts" and it'd be nice to see who I've given it to when, and when I'll be able to give it to them again.

Originally Posted by M. Krass

Again, there's nothing built in to allow this. Remember, as well, that reputation has accrued only since vB3 was installed, though our post counts have been carried over from the previous version of the software. Because of that, it seems like you can't really learn much from the ratio you're asking about.

It's true...
Dave has been cracking wise on this forum for ages, but Matt is a newcomer. Hence their rep-post ratio would be very different, despite the fact that they are both equally worthwhile to read.

John

[Wetzel]

Originally Posted by JVN

It's true...
Dave has been cracking wise on this forum for ages, but Matt is a newcomer. Hence their rep-post ratio would be very different, despite the fact that they are both equally worthwhile to read.

John

Worthwhile they both are, but Dave shows his years with great wit.

I concour with Mads and John about a post-reputation ratio not working.
Also a reminder that Brandon is working on the CD specific hacks while hoping that someone else will share a hack for showing who I gave reputation to.


Wetzel
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Thanks Brandon, relax and enjoy the holidays.

[Matt Adams]

I noticed that it looks like I'm some sort of a "miracle poster" since I have so few posts and a fairly high reputation. I'd like to emphasize this is not the case. I joined these forums a day after we switched to vB3. If you took the ratio of posts after the switch to reputation... I'm sure that I'd be sitting somewhere around the middle of the pack.

I think people somewhat weigh of the reputation dots and the number of posts, but most importantly, it's the strength and justification of points when deciding about who's advice to take in a post. I know there's a lot of people who have been here a lot longer than me and know a whole lot more... fortunately, respect and reputation isn't dictated by green dots.

I have faith that those who know what's going on are well respected, with or without green dots. Are reputation points fun? Yes. Life or death? No.

Matt

[David Kelly]

I didnt feel like starting a new thread, but it applies to reputation.


Brandon, I'm sure this has been brought up, but I'd like to have the ability to see who we repped and our comments on them. And also, I'm not sure if its possible but if we could see how many rep points was given to us on each rep and the same for the reps we see, that would be awesome. I will be nice to see how much value one is to another in addition to their number of bars.

[Wetzel]

Originally Posted by David Kelly

I didnt feel like starting a new thread, but it applies to reputation.


Brandon, I'm sure this has been brought up, but I'd like to have the ability to see who we repped and our comments on them. And also, I'm not sure if its possible but if we could see how many rep points was given to us on each rep and the same for the reps we see, that would be awesome. I will be nice to see how much value one is to another in addition to their number of bars.

This has been talked about, and Brandon is working on the CD hacks (White Pages, portal, UFH, etc) and when that is done, looking to see if someone else has already made a hack for reputation stuff.

Wetzel

[Duke 13370]

Originally Posted by Brandon Martus

In your user cp, in the box entitled 'Latest Reputation Received', it has your points on the right.

Am i the only one that doesn't see that box? Or is that just because no one's given me any reputation points? :tear:

[Wetzel]

Originally Posted by Duke 13370

Am i the only one that doesn't see that box? Or is that just because no one's given me any reputation points? :tear:

User CP is located here. Even if you havn't received reputation, the box is still there. Its titled "Latest Reputation Received", and will be on the right below "New Subscribed Threads:"


Wetzel

[Joe Matt]

Originally Posted by dlavery

(whether many of my posts were just irritating drivel that did not contribute to the discussions - either that or I was making WAY TOO MANY really bad jokes ).

-dave

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8 days to go!!!!

You don't have to worry about that Mr. 400 + reputation points. j/k

I still think that Chit-Chat posts should be dropped from recognition in post count AND in the amount of points given in reputations.

[shyra1353]

Originally Posted by JosephM

I still think that Chit-Chat posts should be dropped from recognition in post count AND in the amount of points given in reputations.

i think that the chit-chat posts should be dropped from the post count that shows up on each post .. but i dont think that the reputation points coming from there should be as well ...

i noticed this today about the green boxes ... for users who have been given no reputation points, sometimes there is still a green box where you run your mouse over it and it says username is an unknown quantity at this point, however with some other users, it is a grey box and when you run your mouse over it it just says their username. i thought that with the green box appearing it meant that someone had given that person a positive reputation and someone else had given them a negative one .. but thats not the case because a new member had a green box next to his name and had the message saying that he is an unknown quantity

so i am confused .. is there a difference between each ?? and should there be (like have grey dots for those who had good reputations and now dont or viceversa and green dots for those who dont have any reputation points) ??

[Wetzel]

I think I read somewhere that plus/minus 10 is the grey zone. The deadband if you will.

As I can't find anything to verify that, I could be wrong.

Wetzel
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First hunch tend to be right.