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Unread 25-02-2004, 21:03
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

I think:

FIRST will make one major rule change after the first weekend of Regionals (penalties maybe).

The best alliance will be a ball gatherer paired with a multiplier ball robot, but hanging will ultimately determine the winner.

There will be at least 1 team that wins 3 regionals.

Hanging from the carpet is more important than most people think.

HP balls will fly all over the place, hitting judges, and probably even Dean Kamen.

Alliances that win will have two excellent robots.

Finally, none of these will actually happen because everything changes once regionals begin.
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Unread 25-02-2004, 22:24
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

~Robots will be found to be less durable against... projectiles than their builders believe them to be.
~THE SCOUTS WILL BE REVERED AS GODS!!!
~There will have to be lots of communication between alliances, drive team members, pits and scouts. Can we say headsets?
~Lots of robots will end up tipped over from trying to climb.
~Rounds of Kick Ball will be played outside on the green at Nats in honor of such an awesome game
~Everything that could possibly go wrong, can and will all at once.
~Prices will still be outrageous at every competition.
~THE SCOUTS WILL BE REVERED AS GODS!!!
~Awesome times to be had and tons of friends to be made.
~It will break. It will always break.

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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

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2. No robot that "caps" as its primary strategy will make it into the finals in any regional or nationals.
Getting a little ambitiuous there eh?

I think it's a bit soon to say that. We have yet to see a single real match be played with real working robots, and completely to spec field components.

besides, that's pretty impossible, both by the numbers, and in practice.

Will the 2x ball be as large a factor as we first thought? we will see.

excellent ball handlers would compliment a robot like 1083, 93, or 1028 perfectly (All the ball suckers I can recall at this point) and should be able to get very far.

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Unread 24-02-2004, 22:24
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

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2. No robot that "caps" as its primary strategy will make it into the finals in any regional or nationals.
i will HIGHLY disagree with this... once autonomus is done, the mobile goal is pushed to the wall, 1 HP shoots into the mobile, the other into the stationary... while the goal is being pushed the 2x is taken off, and holds onto the ball... caps 2!!! yes 2 of the 2x and thats AT LEAST 60 points... not inculding if you hang thats 110 right there with no extra small balls....

likely no.. but its still like something thats going to be highly needed for teams that are ONLY working w/ small balls and not worrying about hanging... espically teams with hoppers...

so this is why the capping the 2x WILL make it into the finals AS LONG AS they can herd balls like mad good and have a good HP =D
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Unread 24-02-2004, 22:54
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

The most effective robots will be the ones that combine an excellent handling of the small balls with the ability to hang while on the carpet.

the only robots that will be effective at handling the small balls are the ones that store the balls internally.

the robots that hang while off of the platform will be much much much more effective than the ones that need to be on the platform to hang.
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

I don't post a whole lot of messages on Chief Delphi, but as a member of a team that has been doing this for ten years I feel very obligated to throw all of my support behind heretic and solace... 177 is building a robot that will control small balls very well this year... we will also be able to control all 3 2x balls at the same time AND we will be able to hang from the carpet...bots who hang during autonomous WASTE 1:45... better to have a robot that will play the whole match
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

im supported... wow... thats a first on the CD forums w00t LOL!!! if your at nats ill be looking for ya 177... or at BAE or UTC (to lazy to look at lists lol!)

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when did i say that a good ball herder couldnt cap the 2x!?! its to late lol!
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

hey David, I didn't know that your bot could do the big balls. It must have evolved alot since when I saw it at the UTC scrimmage.
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

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hey David, I didn't know that your bot could do the big balls. It must have evolved alot since when I saw it at the UTC scrimmage.
You might recall that tower that stuck up in the back of the bot... we had made a monocock arm the night before but had no time to mount it... but come on guys honestly, we are the bobcats, after 2002 do you honestly think we would ever make another robot without an arm?
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You might recall that tower that stuck up in the back of the bot... we had made a monocock arm the night before but had no time to mount it... but come on guys honestly, we are the bobcats, after 2002 do you honestly think we would ever make another robot without an arm?
*phew*
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We on 229 were scared you were going arm-less!

It's good to know some things never change.

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Unread 25-02-2004, 17:19
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

Hanging robots that has power and can stop any other robot from hanging will be a hard robot to stop.

For those who can grab the bar from the carpet will be great but when there is a robot that can stop that then what?

What also will be a be plus for robots is a robot that grabs all the balls while they drop from the stack. this robot will be great.

the only thing would be if that robot goes up against two robot that can hang
115 point will be hard to beat. I will assume that the human can make 50%.

I always favor the low strong robots. Most of the time they come up on TOP.
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

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*phew*
That's a relief.
We on 229 were scared you were going arm-less!

It's good to know some things never change.

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Meanwhile, we on 177 understand that YOU are building a bobcat 2001 arm! can't wait to see it!
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Re: Predicitions For The Rest Of Us

There will be at least one robot that will expand to cover the entire top platform, with legs down on the sides to maintain location. It will also have an arm that will be held down by power, and retract when power is removed. This robot will also be in the finals.

I see FIRST event equipment(camera, scoring) being damaged by flying balls at atleast one regional.

I see volunteer field resetters overshooting the ball dump and landing a ball on the head of some unsuspecting student/robot behind the player station.

I see alot of robots falling over backwards trying to climb the first stair and blocking movement on that half the field.

I see alot of wheelie bars being added on Tursday afternoon.


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There will be at least one robot that will expand to cover the entire top platform, with legs down on the sides to maintain location. It will also have an arm that will be held down by power, and retract when power is removed. This robot will also be in the finals.
I see a robot that does this that when power is removed it folds itselves in and lifts itself ups. If it is fast, including up the platform, it will win a regional and be in national finals.
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im supported... wow... thats a first on the CD forums w00t LOL!!! if your at nats ill be looking for ya 177... or at BAE or UTC (to lazy to look at lists lol!)
We will be at UTC and Philly, then after we win those (seeing as how our robot does everything, including a mod on the technokats drivetrain) we will hopefully be at nats... I also look forward to seeing 121, I was a fan of your 2002 bot with that backboard I thought it was cool lol
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