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Re: most feared thing

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Any robot that can hang in auto mode and keep other robots from hanging, or any robot that can catch every ball. An alliance that could do both would make my head explode. So if anyone wants to watch my head explode...

check out the threads on our robot (WPI - team 190)...we fit that criteria quite well
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my most feared feature would be a doughnut making machine, or a robot that says mr.T lines like don't be a fool stay in school.
Thats Scarrier than i ever thought possible. i now do not fear death.

Im some what worried about Omni Directional Robots as if anyone who is somewhat up to date with teams posting there pictures and profiles there are TONS of crab drive and Omni drive robots this year with the capbality to run circles around you while floating like a butterfly and stingin' like a bee. from scrimage footage and playing with that First Frnazy 3D simulator(Omni robot on the game) you will see there is tons of room to drive around franticly and distrupt any if not all attempts to get up the steps or get up that bar. im happy thought because our robot does not try to get up the bar but where still a volunerable target to any axis happy pilot willing to block our path no matter where we go. Kudos to team 21 who took our idea (haha j/k) and also have a omni directional capability.

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Re: most feared thing

well I think that i agree with my teamate Andy Grady the robot that scares me the most is one that directly funnels all 18 balls from the ball drop driectly to the human player station.
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Re: most feared thing

the thing im most scared of is the 13 inch balls of death. no one realy knows what ones are gonna be used in the actual compititon. at the building museam we kept running up on them!!! it was tearable! so im woried
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Re: most feared thing

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well I think that i agree with my teamate Andy Grady the robot that scares me the most is one that directly funnels all 18 balls from the ball drop driectly to the human player station.
I posted this concept in a different thread. I feel that every other robot, even the teams who catch all 18 balls and roll them out to the human player, is beatable through the correct strategy. In most cases, I have even already thought of that strategy. The one doomsday scenario I can imagine is an ultra-tough, quick unfolding, funnel. If a robot can unfold itself and funnel balls directly from the troft to the human player zone, while being able to take multiple hits and avoid being moved...you really can't beat them. Of course then again, with some of the strategy nuts on this board, I wouldn't be suprised if someone could think of something.
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Re: most feared thing

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I wouldn't be suprised if someone could think of something.
how bout caping their big goal before they can shoot?
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how bout caping their big goal before they can shoot?
According to the rules, all small balls on top of a capped ball still count and will get a 2x multiplier.
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According to the rules, all small balls on top of a capped ball still count and will get a 2x multiplier.
have you tried shooting 18 to 24 balls into a goal that has a 2x ball wedged in its top?

when they are fully inflated, they dont push down very far very easy - if someone caps your goal, and you dont have a means to uncap it, you are not going to get very many balls in it.

TO answer the subject of this thread, The thing I would worry the most about is a team that thinks this is battlebots - with a machine that comes flying out in autonmode and smacks their opponent, or that rams our bot for no apparent reason

even if they do get disqualified, we still have to go back and repair the damage.

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have you tried shooting 18 to 24 balls into a goal that has a 2x ball wedged in its top?

when they are fully inflated, they dont push down very far very easy - if someone caps your goal, and you dont have a means to uncap it, you are not going to get very many balls in it.
Very good point, however the balls are only inflated to 30", not the full amount. Also you only need 1/2 the amount of balls, and that potentially leaves the mobile goal open for scoring (which when stationary isn’t that hard to shoot into).

I never said that this was a bad strategy; I was just stating what the rules say.

Also make sure you don't get caught for goal tending, when the robot has the 2x ball in its possession, it is considered a part of the robot. So if it blocks any of the balls while capping the opponent’s goal, they should get the penalty bonus.
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Re: most feared thing

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According to the rules, all small balls on top of a capped ball still count and will get a 2x multiplier.

Cap a goal and try shooting in it. I guarentee you that you won't be able to get more than 3 balls in if it's capped high. We've tried it. If you cap, you can't get balls in on top of it unless the capped ball is pushed down.
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I posted this concept in a different thread. I feel that every other robot, even the teams who catch all 18 balls and roll them out to the human player, is beatable through the correct strategy. In most cases, I have even already thought of that strategy. The one doomsday scenario I can imagine is an ultra-tough, quick unfolding, funnel. If a robot can unfold itself and funnel balls directly from the troft to the human player zone, while being able to take multiple hits and avoid being moved...you really can't beat them. Of course then again, with some of the strategy nuts on this board, I wouldn't be suprised if someone could think of something.
Unless you have built a robot that can expand taller than theirs and divert the balls the other way. hehehe.
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... and avoid being moved...you really can't beat them.
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It would be hard to move them if they brace themselves against the wall and the side and that corner. You really can't push them from the other side and most robots can't pull as well as they push. Anyway what could you grab onto to pull. That would just get you in trouble. My next move would be if they have a fabric to capture the balls to strategically push on that kind of like when a baseball gets caught on top of mesh batting cages. This would possibly divert the flow of the balls.
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Re: most feared thing

my biggest fear is a robot that can control the bar, but then im just worrying about the finals matches
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Re: most feared thing

I fear the team that has decided the best way to play the game is to run around and look to shove robots over off of the ramp or find some way to topple other robots and try winning by breaking the opponents robot (not intentionally, of course ).
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