most feared thing

[Andy Grady]

Originally Posted by Joel Glidden

Any robot can be moved.

I think judging from their 2002 robot, Beatty and Hammond might have an issue with that statement.

[Tyler Olds]

Originally Posted by Andy Grady

I think judging from their 2002 robot, Beatty and Hammond might have an issue with that statement.

Beatty was still able to be moved, you just had to wedge a goal underneath them ( I am refering to our match against them at MMR). don't get me wrong, their design was great, and whenever they got those file cards down, they were unmovable.

I think the point is, is that any robot can be beaten (disreguarding the 2001 season because it was all co-op). and because of that liek you said Andy, somebody will find a way and exploit it.

[tenfour]

There is no real most feared thing this year because there are so many ways to score and so little robots to do so. Any robot that dominates any one aspect will not be able to do the others. I think the really scarey thing is a robot that can actually work.

[Andy Grady]

Originally Posted by Tyler Olds

Beatty was still able to be moved, you just had to wedge a goal underneath them ( I am refering to our match against them at MMR). don't get me wrong, their design was great, and whenever they got those file cards down, they were unmovable.

I think the point is, is that any robot can be beaten (disreguarding the 2001 season because it was all co-op). and because of that liek you said Andy, somebody will find a way and exploit it.

Correct in the fact that any robot can be defeated. I guess the point I was trying to make about Beatty's 2002 robot was, if you put those same file cards underneath the funnel robot and at the same time use the walls for support, its gonna make it mighty hard to move something like that. Like you said though...for EVERY strategy, there is a counter strategy. Even the most unbeatable of robots has been defeated before.

Originally Posted by Andy Grady

I think judging from their 2002 robot, Beatty and Hammond might have an issue with that statement.

It took quite awhile, but they were moved eventually...




The biggest fear I have is finding a robot that can do pretty much any feature in the game, do it consistantly, and do it well. If they don't make the top 8, they will pretty much be a guaranteed pick...

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by Andy Grady

I posted this concept in a different thread. I feel that every other robot, even the teams who catch all 18 balls and roll them out to the human player, is beatable through the correct strategy. In most cases, I have even already thought of that strategy. The one doomsday scenario I can imagine is an ultra-tough, quick unfolding, funnel. If a robot can unfold itself and funnel balls directly from the troft to the human player zone, while being able to take multiple hits and avoid being moved...you really can't beat them. Of course then again, with some of the strategy nuts on this board, I wouldn't be suprised if someone could think of something.

Line up across from them and push the moveable goal into their ball corral while in autonomous. You wouldn't have any opposition to this because they moved over to get the balls. It would, of course, have to be fast.

You could also inhibit their partner from triggering the small balls in autonomous then go and block their ball corrals with your robot and a goal before the 45 seconds hit. Then they could carry around their 18 balls til doomsday with no way to get them to the hp. If the ball collector bot lacked the ability to hang, they'd have a very tough time winning, I'd imagine.

[Koko Ed]

The one problem with "one-trick pony" robots is teams will figure them out and stop them from doing that one trick anymore. Got a ball collector? Block their goal with the movable goal or with your robot. A really good hanger? Get in their way on the ramp. A topper? Slap the double away or block their way to the goal.
As the season moves on you'll see more diversified robots moving to the forefront as teams figure out how to play the game more and learn to use more flexible strageies. As good as this weekend was it'll get even better.

[Heretic121]

most feared thing for me as HP... after BAE... having a BAD HP on our alliance team... or MYSELF not being up to my potential... which i wasnt on friday... (missed 1 ball which made the match a tie instead of a win..)

[KenWittlief]

Originally Posted by Heretic121

most feared thing for me as HP... after BAE... having a BAD HP on our alliance team... or MYSELF not being up to my potential... which i wasnt on friday... (missed 1 ball which made the match a tie instead of a win..)

when you are out there on the field keep one thought in your head - a lot of work by a lot of people went into putting you and your machine on that field for those 120 seconds

if other people had done their job better you would have more small balls to shoot, or the auton mode would be faster, or the bot would be easier to drive, or you would be able to herd, cap and hang faster better stronger brighter...

so dont beat YOURSELF up if you miss a shot or flub a manuver driving the bot because

you are part of a team

if you win, you win as a team

if you lose, you lose as a team

but win or lose, you all rejoice in your effort, and you all ride the bus home together

as a team!