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Re: Rigged partner assignments?

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it seemed to me that almost all of the teams we were allied with, we were also opposted to in later matches

was that only a cooincidence for our team? it sure seemed odd, out of 60 teams present
That happened a lot to my team at our regional also. Its been happening like that always I thought.
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Re: Rigged partner assignments?

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That happened a lot to my team at our regional also. Its been happening like that always I thought.
It works like this for all teams, from what I've seen. Unfortuately, logic dictates that it'll continue to be this way.

Taken from an older post of mine...

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FIRST wants everyone to have a (more or less) equal amount of time between matches, right? Say you have 45 minutes between your last match and your next match...guess who else has had 45 minutes between those matches? That's right...the teams you just finished playing with / against. The individual alliance pairings might have changed, but the robots are still the same.

If FIRST did move to a more randomized schedule, without as much of a concern for time between matches, people would complain about not having enough time to fix up their robot. It's a lose-lose situation, unfortunately.
I honestly don't think that FIRST has found a better system; if they had, we'd probably be using it by now.
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Re: Rigged partner assignments?

I dont see a consistant amount of time between ALL matches to be an issue - if you have 20 minutes between two matches then 90 until your next one, it would let you tackle some bigger fixes on your bot - 45 minutes is not much time to tear something apart and put it back together

I would rather have a chance to play with/against a broader selection of teams.
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Re: Rigged partner assignments?

Built into the algorithum is a time factor that allows certain "rests" between matches. Because certain teams all start in the same time frame then they will probabbly advance in the algorithum equally. This is unofficial and hearsay from people on the field that are involved.
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Re: Rigged partner assignments?

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it seemed to me that almost all of the teams we were allied with, we were also opposted to in later matches

was that only a cooincidence for our team? it sure seemed odd, out of 60 teams present
That's definitely happened for us, and I just now had a flash of brillance and figured out why.

Edit: see IMDWalrus's post. Beat me to it. Oh well. At least I had a proud moment when I figured it out myself. =)

You're likely to get paired with teams you've just played with because of the time issue. Of course, you may be able to mix in some teams from the matches right before or after your original match. But for the most part you're with that particular group.

Then your next match you may play with a team that played right before or after your second match. So you'll get some switching that way, but between any 2 consecutive matches there's bound to be some overlap.

I think Ken has a point, you don't need consistent time between matches. But I think (I don't really know, I'm not good at this stuff) that that would make it even more complicated to schedule, wouldn't it?

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Re: Rigged partner assignments?

Wait... let's return to the original intent of this thread...

Having a rest time is fine... but that does not say anything about purposely putting veterans with rookies as partners.
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Re: Rigged partner assignments?

maybe putting 4 veteran teams in the same match would be too boring? they would bash each other to pieces in auton mode, then nothing would happen for the remaining 1:45?

some weird logic along those lines?
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Re: Rigged partner assignments?

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maybe putting 4 veteran teams in the same match would be too boring? they would bash each other to pieces in auton mode, then nothing would happen for the remaining 1:45?

some weird logic along those lines?
But putting 4 veteran teams in the same match happens a lot. Sometimes the bashing makes it all the more fun ;-)
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