FIRSTwiki: The first battle

[Astronouth7303]

The first repeated vandelism occured. I have recieved threats for more vandelism. the transcript is attached

Last used IP: 12.222.122.13
AIM: Skatoulaki010

[mtrawls]

[20:56:06] Astronouth7303: if you attempt any such plans, we will screw you so badly.

This probably wasn't appropriate (though to be fair, the other guy was more out of line). Also, as I mentioned elsewhere, you seem to be just feeding the flames. Trolls like this thrive on attention. The fact that he has your attention is why he does it (yes, I won't argue that it is immature). Let him change his IP, amass whatever army he claims to have ... just ignore him and deal quietly with the problems that you get. Postings like this that tend to imply he's a nuisance just give him more of a yearning to waste our time.

Speak softly and carry a big stick.

[Astronouth7303]

Cool quote. Yes, your right. Ssshhh...
I just wanted to make sure we didn't flunk our first test as a wiki. (I didn't think I'd be doing this my first day as sysop!)

[phrontist]

Sigh...

I thought this wouldn't happen, but it's not hard to stop. Just quitely moderate the twit.

[Alex Cormier]

very interesting

[JakeGallagher]

Was this guy actually serious?
(S)He's not too bright...
"[20:56:33] Skatoulaki010: i have started my rebellion, my minons are gathering as we speak..you and your few moderators will never be able to hold us back"
I have started my rebellion (remember that)
Followed by...
"[21:01:27] Skatoulaki010: now sir..i must depart from this conversation i have an army to round, a rebellion to start, and a website to destroy... good day.. good night... good life..."
I have an army to round, a rebellion to start....
I just don't like people who are incohesive in their conversations.

I'm not familiar with the setup of wiki's, but isn't there an administration team that reviews all the articles before they are posted? Just make sure they review everything that comes up (without saying anything) and we shouldn't have a big problem with it. Eventually, since the(se) idiots aren't getting the attention they believe they deserve, they will give up.

[mtrawls]

Originally Posted by JakeGallagher

I'm not familiar with the setup of wiki's, but isn't there an administration team that reviews all the articles before they are posted? Just make sure they review everything that comes up (without saying anything) and we shouldn't have a big problem with it. Eventually, since the(se) idiots aren't getting the attention they believe they deserve, they will give up.

Reviewing things before they are posted is in contrast to our idea of open content (see wikipedia for more info). However, we do have abilities to block users and to revert the edits of vandals.

Incidentally, I forgot to mention the first thing that popped into my mind. It almost sounded like Bill Gates going on an attack against F/OSS. Re-read it with that in mind ... it's hilarious

[phrontist]

Originally Posted by mtrawls

It almost sounded like Bill Gates going on an attack against F/OSS. Re-read it with that in mind ... it's hilarious

HA!

[akaria]

is he actually serious?? why would he want to dostroy the site? if he is serious he sounds like a nut and he could be dangerous.

what are you planning to do about him?

[phrontist]

The beauty of wiki is that no one approves contributions. There are no editors. If some [expletive deleted] screws stuff up, any other user can just come by and revert things. This guy really isn't a threat.

[JakeGallagher]

^^So why are we worrying about this? We can just have the intelligent and mature people just keep the vandalous posts clean and there should be no problem at all.

[Astronouth7303]

Originally Posted by phrontist

The beauty of wiki is that no one approves contributions. There are no editors. If some [expletive deleted] screws stuff up, any other user can just come by and revert things. This guy really isn't a threat.

You know, one of the images on his page was from MIT's site, user: fdalan (no longer there). After some digging, I found that he had access to some keys, and that his name is Fabio Dalan. Whether or not this is our guy is left to be seen.

[Ken Leung]

Originally Posted by Astronouth7303

You know, one of the images on his page was from MIT's site, user: fdalan (no longer there). After some digging, I found that he had access to some keys, and that his name is Fabio Dalan. Whether or not this is our guy is left to be seen.

It is unfortunate that some people only want to spend their time on destructive actions trying to undermind other's constructive efforts to build a better community, especially when the reason for these actions is so unimportant.

I didn't get much out of that AIM log, except the fact that this person wanted to edit part of the Wiki page and for some unknown reason he wasn't allowed to do so. I am not familiar with your process of building this wiki page, and this person may or may not deserve to be "screw so badly", but I think there is a better way to handle this than publically denounce this person, reveal his screen name, and keep on posting names of people or information you might think is related to this person.

It seems like you are trying to say all these to the public as a warning to this person. I have a feeling that's the least of that person's concern. The more you try to stop him/her, the more he/she is going to want to fight back. There is no winner in these sort of fights. Frankly its a waste on both sides' time.

If he/she did something that you don't agree should be done on the wiki page, work it out. Come to an understanding on what you and he/she expect the wiki page to look like. If there are obvious difference on your and his/her vision, than accept the difference and move on. It seems like you expect a lot of people to work on the wiki page, so you should expect lots of different opinions, and know how to handle them appropriately.

It is obvious that this person's feelings are hurt. Anything that he/she does because of those hurt feelings is only going to waste more time on your side. Lets not make it worse for both side of this matter.

[Astronouth7303]

I just got so much perspective out of that.

[Greg Needel]

well i will put my input into this....i post on a few different messageboards (phishhook.com, sharinthegroove.org, etc) and over the past months we have had alot of problems with people like this posting tons of obseen material and causeing a ruckus. what we found is yes they try to take down the site for like a week and then give up.....i would say just don't respond to them and just fix the things they do eventully they will go away. most people on this site are more mature then these people, and lets not let them get in the way of further devlopment of this project.