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Re: How many teams in 2005?

Is there a list of all the retired team numbers? Also, what is the link for the list of teams signed up? I think that the highest rookie number this year will be 1624.....random, but who knows?
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Re: How many teams in 2005?

(Checked USFIRST on Oct 19th; 7:56 pm East Coast Time)
753 teams total. It's slowing down, but I expect that its just a lull and will pick up. Congratulations to team 1568 for being the newest member of the FIRST community this year and I hope I see you guys at Nationals (lots of newer teams have some unusually creative solutions to the game)!
After reading the list, has anyone else noticed double-registrations? I can understand a 2 team school maybe, but two identical registrations with the same team number...just a glitch? (And the Israel regional went from 14 teams of a 14 team capacity to a 0 of 0 and you get an error when you search it now...).
By the way, the double-registered teams (I saw) are 47, 53, 71, 103, 116, 120, 126, 148, 151, 175, 190, 191, 241, 401, 451, 499, 616, 812, 829, 843, 972, 1022, 1083, 1104, 1137, 1208, 1216. Are these teams that are signed up for more than one regional and it lists you twice (or three times, etc...), there seems to be a lot of teams for it to be just a random database error.

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P.S. From what I hear, in it's infancy, FIRST allowed teams to change numbers, so certain retired teams have their number in use; I do not think that a list of retired teams is redily available, and you would need to know which teams changed numbers to know which are retired, which are changed and retired and which changed from a number to another leaving a "hole". (Number-changing has since been disallowed).
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Re: How many teams in 2005?

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(Checked USFIRST on Oct 19th; 7:56 pm East Coast Time)
753 teams total. It's slowing down, but I expect that its just a lull and will pick up. Congratulations to team 1568 for being the newest member of the FIRST community this year and I hope I see you guys at Nationals (lots of newer teams have some unusually creative solutions to the game)!
After reading the list, has anyone else noticed double-registrations? I can understand a 2 team school maybe, but two identical registrations with the same team number...just a glitch? (And the Israel regional went from 14 teams of a 14 team capacity to a 0 of 0 and you get an error when you search it now...).
By the way, the double-registered teams (I saw) are 47, 53, 71, 103, 116, 120, 126, 148, 151, 175, 190, 191, 241, 401, 451, 499, 616, 812, 829, 843, 972, 1022, 1083, 1104, 1137, 1208, 1216. Are these teams that are signed up for more than one regional and it lists you twice (or three times, etc...), there seems to be a lot of teams for it to be just a random database error.

Michael "The Crate Guy" Greenley, Team 341

P.S. From what I hear, in it's infancy, FIRST allowed teams to change numbers, so certain retired teams have their number in use; I do not think that a list of retired teams is redily available, and you would need to know which teams changed numbers to know which are retired, which are changed and retired and which changed from a number to another leaving a "hole". (Number-changing has since been disallowed).
I think the double registered teams are teams that have registered for the championship.
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Re: How many teams in 2005?

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Is there a list of all the retired team numbers? Also, what is the link for the list of teams signed up? I think that the highest rookie number this year will be 1624.....random, but who knows?

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P.S. From what I hear, in it's infancy, FIRST allowed teams to change numbers, so certain retired teams have their number in use; I do not think that a list of retired teams is redily available, and you would need to know which teams changed numbers to know which are retired, which are changed and retired and which changed from a number to another leaving a "hole". (Number-changing has since been disallowed).
omutton asked for retired team numbers, not actual teams. The retired numbers are all the numbers not being used up to the new teams. This is because since 1999 or 2000, the teams have all been consecutively numbered. But a question I have is if a team wants to take a year off...to gain funds and what not, can they register the following year with their original team number or do they have to get a new number?
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Re: How many teams in 2005?

As far as I know, yes, a returning team would keep its number. And any other status, such as being a 1992 team, Chairman's, etc. (The 1992 team thing is from WildStang, which took 1993 off if memory serves me right.)
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Schools that participated last year, but not signed up yet...

30, 35, 70, 97, 102, 104, 118, 140, 167, 203, 235, 249, 253, 256, 258, 259, 276, 311, 321, 322, 373, 374, 391, 398, 410, 434, 441, 442, 443, 444, 446, 448, 449, 480, 492, 507, 535, 550, 569, 570, 581, 588, 598, 605, 606, 611, 634, 642, 644, 649, 651, 653, 660, 665, 668, 670, 675, 692, 695, 698, 704, 713, 752, 758, 762, 764, 765, 769, 770, 772, 773, 780, 781, 782, 824, 825, 827, 831, 834, 852, 861, 866, 875, 878, 879, 880, 883, 884, 888, 898, 902, 906, 908, 912, 913, 919, 931, 933, 937, 938, 940, 942, 943, 948, 953, 954, 959, 964, 966, 968, 970, 973, 979, 982, 992, 997, 998, 1005, 1010, 1011, 1017, 1030, 1034, 1035, 1036, 1040, 1043, 1045, 1046, 1049, 1055, 1056, 1058, 1059, 1064, 1067, 1072, 1075, 1081, 1082, 1088, 1098, 1100, 1106, 1109, 1113, 1115, 1120, 1122, 1125, 1131, 1133, 1136, 1141, 1144, 1147, 1148, 1151, 1152, 1158, 1164, 1165, 1166, 1169, 1182, 1185, 1187, 1191, 1201, 1204, 1206, 1210, 1214, 1215, 1221, 1224, 1225, 1227, 1228, 1229, 1232, 1239, 1248, 1255, 1259, 1260, 1263, 1274, 1281, 1287, 1290, 1292, 1294, 1295, 1296, 1297, 1298, 1299, 1300, 1308, 1309, 1311, 1312, 1315, 1324, 1325, 1329, 1331, 1332, 1334, 1338, 1339, 1342, 1343, 1347, 1352, 1356, 1361, 1364, 1365, 1368, 1380, 1387, 1391, 1393, 1395, 1401, 1406, 1409, 1411, 1412, 1416, 1419, 1420, 1425, 1426, 1427, 1428, 1429, 1430, 1432, 1433, 1437, 1439, 1441, 1442, 1448, 1453, 1455, 1456, 1459, 1461, 1463, 1464, 1465, 1466, 1467, 1470, 1472, 1475, 1476, 1477, 1478, 1479, 1481, 1482, 1484, 1485, 1489, 1490, 1492, 1495, 1496, 1497


Wow - That's a lot of teams that Raised the Bar, but haven't signed up to participate this year.

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435 isn't registered for anything?

Hope everything's alright up there--it'd be a shame for the National Champions to be unable to defend their title!
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Re: Schools that participated last year, but not signed up yet...

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435 isn't registered for anything?

Hope everything's alright up there--it'd be a shame for the National Champions to be unable to defend their title!
My mistake. I went through the whole list, just to make sure no one was on there that shouldn't have been.
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double registerd teams in DB.

OK maybe i can help many of you out and inform you as to why many teams show up as double and soon maybe triple on the FIRST "database" here. What really is happening is the web address that you are linking through is called a query. What that is, is a string of commands for a database that is accessing the information you are seeking in the query. Well as it appears, this query that people keep referring to is really asking to "show all teams registered at any and all events". Thus meaning if a team is registered at more then one event, they will appear for each event. So you will continue to have multiple teams show up multiple times as they register for more events, and as the 28th of October comes up when second regional registration opens, this database will more or less just be cluttered.
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Re: Schools that participated last year, but not signed up yet...

Update -

30, 35, 104, 140, 167, 235, 249, 256, 258, 259, 276, 311, 321, 373, 374, 391, 398, 410, 434, 441, 442, 446, 449, 480, 492, 507, 535, 569, 581, 598, 605, 606, 611, 634, 642, 644, 649, 653, 665, 668, 670, 675, 692, 695, 704, 713, 758, 762, 764, 765, 770, 773, 780, 782, 825, 827, 831, 852, 861, 866, 875, 879, 880, 883, 888, 898, 902, 906, 908, 912, 938, 940, 942, 943, 953, 954, 959, 964, 970, 973, 979, 982, 992, 998, 1010, 1011, 1017, 1030, 1034, 1035, 1036, 1043, 1045, 1046, 1049, 1055, 1056, 1059, 1064, 1067, 1075, 1081, 1082, 1088, 1106, 1109, 1113, 1115, 1122, 1125, 1131, 1133, 1136, 1144, 1147, 1148, 1151, 1164, 1165, 1166, 1169, 1182, 1191, 1201, 1204, 1206, 1210, 1214, 1215, 1221, 1224, 1225, 1227, 1229, 1232, 1239, 1255, 1260, 1263, 1281, 1294, 1295, 1297, 1298, 1299, 1300, 1308, 1309, 1312, 1315, 1325, 1329, 1331, 1338, 1339, 1342, 1347, 1352, 1356, 1364, 1365, 1368, 1380, 1387, 1393, 1395, 1401, 1406, 1409, 1411, 1412, 1416, 1420, 1426, 1427, 1428, 1429, 1433, 1439, 1441, 1442, 1448, 1453, 1455, 1456, 1459, 1461, 1463, 1465, 1466, 1470, 1475, 1476, 1478, 1479, 1481, 1484, 1485, 1489, 1490, 1492, 1496

72 teams signed up and came off the list, barely made a dent.
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omutton asked for retired team numbers, not actual teams. The retired numbers are all the numbers not being used up to the new teams. This is because since 1999 or 2000, the teams have all been consecutively numbered. But a question I have is if a team wants to take a year off...to gain funds and what not, can they register the following year with their original team number or do they have to get a new number?
Early on, teams got their numbers for that year in the order they registered in. In 1999, teams were listed alphabeticaly by sponser and given a number. Those numbers have remained since, with new teams being added at the end as they registered. Teams that have droped out are not reused, but the name stays with the school, for the most part. FIRST will work with a team that is reforming at a former school if they want to reclaim their team number.

For example, team 73 has come back after a year or two of not competing, but they still have their old team number.


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just think the more teams that compete the newer Robot controllers are going to have to be and the frequent change of the RC - that was the only reason why 2004 one was a different model to handle teams and battery backup / c++
Grammar helps us to understand your posts. It was very difficult to figure out what you meant without sentences or commas.

The old RC could handle the team number but just had a three digit LCD. I don't think that more teams will mean that the RC will have to change more often. Someone else can tell you how many teams the current RC will support, but I believe that we will not be reaching that point for a long time.


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Darn. Michigan lost . Congrats to Cali for leading the way in the growth of FIRST teams. So who else wants to go to Nebraska to help them out?

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Darn. Michigan lost . Congrats to Cali for leading the way in the growth of FIRST teams. So who else wants to go to Nebraska to help them out?

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