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Unread 17-03-2002, 22:44
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Balls are the difference

I will bet anything that a ball bot that gets 20 balls in one goal will beat anybody, as long as they can control that goal. If you just can pull goals, than 20 balls will counter your two goals. Balls are the difference
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Very true team 173 RAGE showed everyone that balls will come into play in finals at the Long Island Regionals. So look out for all the ball bots including team 56.

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Unread 19-03-2002, 22:44
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Smile Balls are the difference for SURE

As a member of team 16 I can assure you that when we grab only that one goal and put 20-30 balls in it, then go home in the last 4 seconds, we will more than likely win the match.

Ask anyone who went to the Houston regional.

P.S. We seeded first also. I love us ball getters.
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Re: Balls are the difference

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I will bet anything that a ball bot that gets 20 balls in one goal will beat anybody, as long as they can control that goal. If you just can pull goals, than 20 balls will counter your two goals. Balls are the difference
THAnk you!!! i said the same thing in our initial design meetings, but all the engineers could say was that it would be easier to build a goal robot than a ball robot. Yeah. Never mind that there seems to be a MAJor lack of ball robots at ALL the comps. Ugh. Anyways, to all my CD posting friends, put in a good word for Beach 'Bot with your teams....we happen to be a wonderful goal grabber and will most likely be groveling at the feet of any teams that can handle lots of balls in the finals.
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not ture

at UTC there is more ball handlers then goal grabbers.
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You weren't the only one

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THAnk you!!! i said the same thing in our initial design meetings, but all the engineers could say was that it would be easier to build a goal robot than a ball robot.
Actually Amy, at least ONE engineer argued strongly for a ball robot and even built a couple of prototype collectors.Gee I wonder who that was?

Though I agree that a goal grabber is simpler. As I recall the decision came down to a single vote, so there were strong arguments either way.
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Agreed

I'd have to agree, Balls are the difference. In our qualification match against Beatty, we had only 1 goal, but 18 balls and 1 robot get back, they had 2 and 1 robot get back, we won 38-25....thats why we have a ball bot.
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In our qualification match against Beatty, we had only 1 goal, but 18 balls and 1 robot get back, they had 2 and 1 robot get back, we won 38-25....thats why we have a ball bot.
it must have been 38-30 because if they got 2 goals and a robot back that would be 30 points.

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My fault on that one, they didnt get a robot back, and they got 5 balls in from the human players.
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I agree, balls are the difference. We made some rookie mistakes at the regionals and we are making some improvements to our manuverability for Orlando. The other thing, I don't think we promoted ourselves well enough.

Falco, I don't know if you saw it, but we had a match where we got 19 of the 20 balls on one side of the field in one quick,long pass. There was no room for the 20th ball and the 19th had to be backed out so we could lift the full basket. It was a cool sight.

Hopefully we will be able to consistently show that off in Orlando and the manuverability changes will make the difference. I believe we could fill and dump twice in a match.

By the way, you guys did great!
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Thanks!

No, I didn't get to see that one, but I believe you guys could do it, you have a great ball bot. And thanks for the compliments, we can hold 9 in our basket and about 3 in our rollers,the most dumps we did in a match was 3, but there was time for a fourth. See you in Florida, maybe we'll give a pronunciation class there lol.
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Balls are defintely the difference. We've been on both sides of the coin of 'winning by a ball.' Rather than having 20 balls in one goal, however, just have one goal in each scoring zone, the other neutral, and one has one more than the other. That is what it means by balls are the difference.
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Balls are definately, without a doubt, a major factor this year. Just ask the Technokats or Wildstang (but not DJ!).

If you didn't know, they lost their 2nd match at Finals at MMR by 2 balls accidentally thrown into the opponent goal...
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yea, i'm very proud of my team's (86) ability to pick up 25-30 balls and dump them successfully. we seeded in the 20s but that was due to a bad start...after we (the drivers) calmed down everything went fine...and at nats I think that ball bots really will make a difference...i know they did with the few ball bots at KSC. I know in the finals alot of the goal grabbers picked ball bots to balance their alliance and this proved to be quite a good strategy
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YOU'RE ALL WRONG!!!

I write this message with a smile on my face I want any and all ball loaders to try to load balls when a robot is blocking them. It's well understood that you can suck up 20-30 balls, but it does you no good if you don't have a goal or if you are being blocked. I hope you all look at your machines and understand that this game is not about balls, but rather goals! Cryin' out loud, get away from those balls and start grabbing goals. (this entire message is written towards the finals -- the only time this game counts!). Have fun in Disney because when it is time to play it won't be any fun getting blocked. Mark my words: Watch extenders and goal grabbers to win.
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