CALLING YOU UP

[Cory]

Originally Posted by JulieB

The reason of this thread I was shock of the people in the US who do not seem to care about the Flag, fallen soldiers, present soldiers or their country

You were shocked at that, or the number of people who would not fight "for" their country in a situation such as Iraq?

I am a very, very strong critic of the war in Iraq, but even so, I have the HIGHEST respect for our soldiers who are over there fighting for whatever reasons.

Cory

[Mini-D67]

Originally Posted by Dorienne Plait

I'd do it immediately, though I am female and wouldn't be able to.

Thats not true at all... Service Women are very common, its just not a thing most girls want to do. My best friend is a Lance Corpral in the Marine Corps and his CO is a female Gunnery Sgt with 12 years in...


As for me, give me an M-16 and i would go anywhere. I love this country and would do anything to defend it or its beliefs.

I'm joing the Marine Corps and am leaving for boot camp in April of 2006, actually. Although my chances of going over seas are somewhat limited ( I want to be a military police/corrections officer, might go to an embacy or something ), I would have no problem doing it.

[Adam Y.]

Let’s keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of Iraq by force (our recent invasion), but allow North Korea and Pakistan to develop and mass-produce nuclear weapons of their own without a fight. Pakistan is extremely unstable, and North Korea is a possible threat, each much more of a scary situation than Iraq since the end of the gulf war. Not to mention we haven’t found hide nor hare in terms of nuclear weapons in Iraq over the past year and a half.

Im not sure what you are saying. The only real political solution to North Korea and Pakistan is diplomacy. Any other method would be sheer madness.

[VGMasterShadow]

Originally Posted by Billfred

If some army is marching down Harbison Boulevard (the main drag near my house), pass me a shotgun and let's dance.

Nice expression Billfred.

Anyway, I'm ready to do what I can.

[Wetzel]

I am packing up to go home now, but there is a LOT of flamebait posts in this thread, along with information that is just wrong.



Wetzel

[Eugenia Gabrielov]

I would say that I would go, though it is not like I would have much choice. However, most definitly not in a combat position. I believe anybody can be trained enough to be on the battlefield, though it takes time and work. However, if I were to be drafted, I would hope to assisst in a field of military that would benefit both my future career and army, without infringing far on my personal beliefs. Most definitly medicine or technology for me, if there is a draft.

Though Bill Gold has a very valid point on politics, I haven't seen much flamebits in threads on the Sims, or Mods, or foreign music. Happy Holidays y'all, and keep the thread in that spirit please.

Much love,
Genia

[Dorienne]

Originally Posted by Mini-D67

Thats not true at all... Service Women are very common, its just not a thing most girls want to do. My best friend is a Lance Corpral in the Marine Corps and his CO is a female Gunnery Sgt with 12 years in...


As for me, give me an M-16 and i would go anywhere. I love this country and would do anything to defend it or its beliefs.

I'm joing the Marine Corps and am leaving for boot camp in April of 2006, actually. Although my chances of going over seas are somewhat limited ( I want to be a military police/corrections officer, might go to an embacy or something ), I would have no problem doing it.

I meant the draft. The draft doesn't allow women, does it?

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by Dorienne Plait

I meant the draft. The draft doesn't allow women, does it?

At this point, no, women don't register with Selective Service. And since they don't register, they can't be drafted.

Congress has taken a few stabs at changing that, but nothing's happened yet.

[telkanuru]

If I were drafted, I would go, because that's the duty of a citizin to his country, no matter the war. Enlist, no.

As for people who don't care about fallen soldiers, etc., that's bull, pure and simple. One can easily separate the war from those fighting it. And on that subject, can any war hawk tell me the average life expectancy for a Lt. dropped in a hot LZ in Vietnam? Give you a hint. It's in minutes.

Flamebait indeed.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by telkanuru

If I were drafted, I would go, because that's the duty of a citizin to his country, no matter the war. Enlist, no.

As for people who don't care about fallen soldiers, etc., that's bull, pure and simple. One can easily separate the war from those fighting it. And on that subject, can any war hawk tell me the average life expectancy for a Lt. dropped in a hot LZ in Vietnam? Give you a hint. It's in minutes.

Flamebait indeed.

I believe the answer was 2 minutes, or 1:30, according to Rules of Engagement, which I'm guessing is where you got this question from.

[Max Lobovsky]

It's great when people use Hollywood movies for statistics like that... I really hope you were just using it somewhat jokingly...

[Mike]

Honestly, the only thing keeping me out of the army (once i'm 18) is the fact that once I get back, I won't be able to get my life back together. It would stop me from having all those real life experiences. If I were somehow drafted though, I'd be on a plane to Iraq in a second.

[telkanuru]

Originally Posted by Cory

I believe the answer was 2 minutes, or 1:30, according to Rules of Engagement, which I'm guessing is where you got this question from.

16 minutes, and $@#$@#$@#$@#, you got me. It's used jokingly (the only facts I'll take without checking are those from Sorkin's work, as he tries for accuracy), but it's more or less correct and proves the point.

[Mini-D67]

Originally Posted by MikeWasHere05

Honestly, the only thing keeping me out of the army (once i'm 18) is the fact that once I get back, I won't be able to get my life back together. It would stop me from having all those real life experiences. If I were somehow drafted though, I'd be on a plane to Iraq in a second.

If you joined the armed forces, you wouldn't be missing much... you'd probably be gain a lot, in fact... going through basic (I dont know about Army basic, but Marine Corps would qualify as an 'expirence' ) itself, going to your MOS school, getting stationed somewhere... all things that I would think to be more interestuing than sitting in the same dorm of a college for 4 or more years...

I think to get a true understanding of the military you have to expirence it. I haven't personally, yet, but I have followed my brother and best friends journeys from the hell of Parris Island to their duty stations they're at now. Most of you probably havent had this type of exposure. The common ' my dads friend was in the navy 6 years ago' , and ' omgzors my brother knows a kid online whos cousins best friend is in the army reserve, I know everything about teh military!!!!11' doesn't cut it when it comes to knowing what you're talking about concerning the military. What you read and and hear from outside sources is not always what is true. More times than not its bad info.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Mini-D67

If you joined the armed forces, you wouldn't be missing much... you'd probably be gain a lot, in fact... going through basic (I dont know about Army basic, but Marine Corps would qualify as an 'expirence' ) itself, going to your MOS school, getting stationed somewhere... all things that I would think to be more interestuing than sitting in the same dorm of a college for 4 or more years...

I think to get a true understanding of the military you have to expirence it. I haven't personally, yet, but I have followed my brother and best friends journeys from the hell of Parris Island to their duty stations they're at now. Most of you probably havent had this type of exposure. The common ' my dads friend was in the navy 6 years ago' , and ' omgzors my brother knows a kid online whos cousins best friend is in the army reserve, I know everything about teh military!!!!11' doesn't cut it when it comes to knowing what you're talking about concerning the military. What you read and and hear from outside sources is not always what is true. More times than not its bad info.

My Uncle joined the military out of college, and he still doesn't have any kind of college degree, and is now a trucker barely affording his mortgage. Being exposed to that is whats turning me off.