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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

well a slice of pie (pi) forms a triangle, like a pyramid!

OK.... now that I got that off my back, I see two interpretations for the word between, one being between as something in the middle of these three things, or between as something in common.

my guess that the between refers to something in common, in this case, three. I do not think that a three on three alliance is conceivable because of all the logistic problems talked about in the the center is out topic. Saying that, I think that the three will be something to do with scoring objects, possibly three different types of things to score, or three places to score.

Also during the kickoff, Dave mentioned that the IR sensors weren't necessary this year (first Frenzy), but not the next (this 2005 season). I can imagine that the autonomous mode will be extremely important, possibly having the capability to score points during autonomous mode

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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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Also during the kickoff, Dave mentioned that the IR sensors weren't necessary this year (first Frenzy), but not the next (this 2005 season). I can imagine that the autonomous mode will be extremely important, possibly having the capability to score points during autonomous mode

just my $.02

But didnt robots score points during past two year's Autonomous mode. 2003 (stack attack) robots who broke the wall had boxes in thier zone after the end of autonomous mode. Past season 2004 (FIRST frenzy) team 190 hung during autonomous (50 points).

Baseballs, i am not really supporting that idea, (this might sound crazy, cause i dont think FIRST will make a game to throw baseballs around unless the whole field is in a cage and all the drivers and human players are wearing helmets and gaurds) i am thinking about safety. what if a robot has the capibility of throw the ball somewhere? wouldnt that be a safety issue?
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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well a slice of pie (pi) forms a triangle, like a pyramid!

OK.... now that I got that off my back, I see two interpretations for the word between, one being between as something in the middle of these three things, or between as something in common.

my guess that the between refers to something in common, in this case, three. I do not think that a three on three alliance is conceivable because of all the logistic problems talked about in the the center is out topic. Saying that, I think that the three will be something to do with scoring objects, possibly three different types of things to score, or three places to score.

Also during the kickoff, Dave mentioned that the IR sensors weren't necessary this year (first Frenzy), but not the next (this 2005 season). I can imagine that the autonomous mode will be extremely important, possibly having the capability to score points during autonomous mode

just my $.02
I hope AUTO mode isn't going to be extremely important... For the passed years our robot has done next to nothing in AUTO mode... We try so hard to get it right but we just beat our robot during the comps and everything gets off... Like we don't go straight or whatever... OH NO!!!
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Fin, I think what he meant was that you could only get these points during autonomous, and at no other time during the match. The past two years, you could score those points at any point during the match. Maybe now, you have one shot to do it in autonomous and thats it.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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Fin, I think what he meant was that you could only get these points during autonomous, and at no other time during the match. The past two years, you could score those points at any point during the match. Maybe now, you have one shot to do it in autonomous and thats it.

FIRST wouldn't do that to us. only one shot to score points (autonomous), NO WAY. seeing all the problems teams had with autonomous previous years, i dont think we will see this kind of day (score only during autonomous) anytime soon.
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I hope AUTO mode isn't going to be extremely important... For the passed years our robot has done next to nothing in AUTO mode... We try so hard to get it right but we just beat our robot during the comps and everything gets off... Like we don't go straight or whatever... OH NO!!!
Oh, automode is going to be super important! Dave has said that straight out. Well, straight by dave standards.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Jeez, I'm having some difficulty compiling all of these ideas into my mind.

My theory lies with the hexagon field and a ziggurat shape center.

Somehow IR beacon(s) are going to allow a robot to guide itself to a scoring opportunity or to a prominent location on the field.

I'm having problems with the teams or no teams issue. I don't think FIRST will easily abandon alliances. However, unless a large field is invented, having six robots on the playing field at once could be problematic. I foresee mass destruction if the competition is as aggressive as last year.
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However, unless a large field is invented, having six robots on the playing field at once could be problematic.
I HIGHLY doubt that FIRST would make the field larger than is usually is. Regional locations like UTC can't take a field that is much larger than the normal field and I am sure other locations have the same problem .
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Okay then... I'm now more confident about there being three teams on the field.



Now just to start theorizing on drivetrain options...
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

I think the field will stay the same, even though a lot of people say it will be a hexxagon shape. With the same field as the past few years, FIRST could have three or four teams on each side of the field at a time. I think FIRST will have a 3 v 3 setup, with three teams on each side. In the middle of the field the robots might have to hit an IR beacon for drive teams to drive robots around.

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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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My dad has 832 songs by the Beatles on iTunes and owns every single beatles album released in the US and the UK. Interesting.....

Perhaps if you play the game backwards, it plays another clue? (can you even do that with iTunes?)
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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Look at this bloody album cover people! John Lennon (Neun), known for his rosy specs, and George Harrison (Burns) have a drum between them. A circle! Pi! Muhahahaha! George Burns was in the movie the beatles made about this album. This makes perfect sense. Everything is coming together.

Pi - The Drum
You - George
Me - John

Forms a triangle!!!!
In the center of which is something they are holding!

What are they holding?!

UPDATE: They're all musical instruments. What does that mean? The trumpet seems closest to the center. Trumpets are used to wake people up. Maybe waking up is leaving auto mode. Whatever the case, I'm positive Lavery was indicating this album cover. It's just so like him. First Led Zep, now the Fab Four. And hey, he mentioned the fab four in another clue! Let me find it.
Maybe not what they are holding! Between John, George and the Drum (pi) are Paul and Ringo. I don't know about Paul, but maybe the game has something to do with RINGS!

Or did someone already mention that?
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Hm....this is all very interesting....although it seems like its going to end up much more simple than this....

After they release what it is, we are going to laugh at these guesses, unless someone actually guesses right!
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

First of all, I disagree completely with this thread being in the Rumor Mill.

Second, I completely agree with the unassisted triple play idea.

Third, the roots of the word Amethyst are in the Greek amethustos meaning "not drunk" (look it up) so I think we will be following a line again.

Why is Amethyst capitalized? I wonder...
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

I am going with what Max said, 3 Vs. 3 and a hexagonal field. :ulls hair out::
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