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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

PI is the 16 th letter of the Greek Alphabet. The following is from a math site:

pi PI (PIE) The lower-case Pi is universally used to represent that number which is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. The upper-case Pi is used as the “product” symbol.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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PI is the 16 th letter of the Greek Alphabet. The following is from a math site:

pi PI (PIE) The lower-case Pi is universally used to represent that number which is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. The upper-case Pi is used as the “product” symbol.
16 sided field...now dats crazy.

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While I also can't imagine FIRST abandoning alliances altogether, it may be worth noting that John Neun and George Burns are notable in baseball for having performed unassisted triple plays.
Maybe we might lose the alliances this year...or maybe you have alliances of three teams and only 1 robot is on the field at a time, but the pyramid idea is just as crazy as my 16 sided field idea too, if they were going for pyramid, how would you make it 3d? would you have to have something that can also climb up the side of it and there's something at the top of it all that you have to reach, and maybe in your alliances, each robot has to work together to reach the top, and maybe the field is an upside down V to look like a mountain.

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I remembered hearing a thread a bit back about a kid hearing Dave Lavery saying something he saw at the Science Museum of Virginia reminded him of somethign from next years game and so I searched their website and during march of 2004 which is when they had the VCU regional there was an exhibit on CRYSTALS! specifically noting HEXAGON shaped...
So maybe we might not do pyramid field, but hexagon field and just one robot in the field at a time from the 3-robot alliance.


Then again...I might totally be off, so ya
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

All i can say is... WHAT????lol im so confused...im waiting patiently for kickoff to come to find out wht the game it lol my brain is hurting lol
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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All i can say is... WHAT????lol im so confused...im waiting patiently for kickoff to come to find out wht the game it lol my brain is hurting lol
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Are you serious that you can wait PATIENTLY and not go crazy to know the game till the 8th?


anyways back to the thread... since "3" is coming back up. is it 3 major scoring objects? like 180 pounds mobile goals from back in 2002? or something similar to that?
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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since "3" is coming back up. is it 3 major scoring objects? like 180 pounds mobile goals from back in 2002? or something similar to that?

I tend to agree here...Most likely 3 of one thing or 3 different ways to score


And the IR beacons are very likely to be in some twisted way necessary in this years game. The hexagonal field and 6 teams at a time seem a little bit to big of a change to be realistic.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

There was a book titled Life of Pi. Pi was the nickname of a 16 year old Indian boy named after a swimming pool who dabbles in three different religions (Christianity, Islam, Hinduism), and is trapped on a life boat with a tiger, orangutan, and zebra (it ends up being just him and the tiger) in the middle of the Pacific Ocean for close to a year.

So... 3 very different animals, 3 religions, and 16 years.

This generally supports the 3 teams theory(or alliances of 3).

But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

I think IR is back to spite me, time to start thinking about it again.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

i have a feeling that the field with be the same as it was last year just to save some money. but what is inside the the field will be diferent.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Here's another rendition of the Red + Blue = Purple idea...

Alliances stay the same throughout the match (I personally think it would be hard to change partners during the actual match, especially with strategy, but who knows). However, if lets say there are 2 scoring "zones" for you to place whatever objects give you points, and mid-way through the match, the zones "swap". So, whatever objects you put in yours, you have to pull out and put in the other zone and the opposite alliance vice versa. Thus, forcing both teams to be defensive, offensive, and fast... plus very much alliance cooperation to accomplish the task. So, no scoring zone truly belongs to any alliance. Heck, maybe they don't even tell you which scoring zone is yours till the match is going. Just an interesting twist I figured I'd throw in.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Get ready for some more arm designs..

Could it really be this easy?

Pi
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Amethyst = (6 year anniversary stone)

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PUMA
6 axis Robot designed for use in assembly, material handling, machine loading and other things

Of course, this is the non-obvious PUMA reference, the first one being the Sports company who made the official Yellow Size 5 soccer balls in 2002 for the FIRST Zone Zeal competition shown below.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Alright...here is my take...

With Amethist being of a purple color, two baseball players who performed unassisted triple plays, and Pi between you and me, they gave us quite a complex clue this year.

1. First Amethist colored glasses...I think this is gonna be a simplistic portion. Three teams on the field at once, Red, Blue, and Purple.

2. Baseball players are a given...Triple play means 3 teams. The question is will it be alliances or no? I dont think FIRST would want to get rid of alliances, but I am going to go out on a limb and say the unassisted portion of the triple play means there will be the triumphant return of 1 v 1 v 1 (as a FIRST history buff, I love the idea...but I dont know if I want FIRST without alliances)...or it could just mean that three teams per alliance have absolutely no ability to interact with each other.

3. Pi is associated with circles. I faintly remember hearing that IR sensors were going to be a necessity this year. I'm guessing that there is some form of circle in the middle of the field with IR helping guide you to it...probably because of a barrier which you can't see.

or....

We are about to see the return of Torroid Terror with IR sensors involved!

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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that this year is going to be called FIRST Frenzy: Something. Now what was unusual about last years game, in the context of all the others. All the elements were recycled. The kickballs, the big yellow ball, the goals, the bar: all from past years. Now look at the games that last years game didn't have anything in common with:
  • Stack Attack
  • Toroid Terror
  • Hexagon Havoc

Remember that spotlight about one-one-one-one-one-one? Maybe that's what we'll have? 6 teams on a hexagonal feild! w00t!
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

With all these interpretations of the clue, I still can't get beyond the between. I mean, with all the attention to grammar on these forums, and in the general community, I would say they would definitely notice using between for three items. Am I wrong here?

So.. "between Pi, You and Me," with Pi being one item, and "You and Me" being the second? Maybe that changes things a bit, and adds credit to the triple play ideas. I dunno.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Mu in lower case greek looks like a U
Me is John Neun speaking and Neun is like the greek letter Nu
and between these letters and Pi in the greek alphabet are both Xi and Omicron

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Mu in lower case greek looks like a U
Me is John Neun speaking and Neun is like the greek letter Nu
and between these letters and Pi in the greek alphabet are both Xi and Omicron

Any ideas come from this?
Sure.. Unnoficial FIRST Fraternity. Delta Omicron Xi. DOX
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